UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

Starmer leaning towards Europe and quite right too!

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He can lean towards Europe all he wants. It won’t help him/labour come the local elections.

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Why not, when a clear majority are now anti brexit?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/?srsltid=AfmBOoprU2K7wn4NeU0q-9lPoQUODjj9poDKp6ueBsk7npoAMqxuOfmJ

Might be a bit late to turn the tide in May,but that is their own doing,however it was a logical step,even if overdue.
Long way to the GE though,and that could be a struggle though Fartage is doing his best to fuck it up for his Reform too,may it continue and gather pace.

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I think the way Starmer has handled Trump/Iran has improved general the impression of him people have in a positive way. Will it materially impact election results? Maybe in the very tightest of margins, but not overall.

Interesting comment on the radio the other day during their election coverage, specifically they were in Wales but I think it applies in a lot of places. Where there have previously been Labour or Conservative strongholds and kids had naturally followed on from their parents - generations voting the same way. Things have changed, people are questioning that more and asking themselves “What are my politics?”.

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From my view Reform’s polling is dropping. Greens are rising. Conservatives are kind of nowhere and Labour are a busted flush. But, the anti Reform movement is quite strong and people will vote tactically.

General Election tomorrow I think you end up with Reform, Conservative coalition. Not great. There is a chance of a Green Labour one helped by Starmer’s current realignment with Europe and telling the US we aren’t getting involved.

Because it is unlikely to be a material factor when people consider who to vote for in the local elections. They either want to stick it to the government regardless, have local issues they want to vote on or don’t see the importance of a European relationship and how it may impact them or the country.

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Yeah, I know, but I don’t think it’s electorally disadvantageous in the longer term.

A Green / Lib Dem coalition, maybe even involving Labour, would hopefully be an option too. Certainly preferable to a Reform/Conservative one for me.

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Was just shown this…

It is so appalling it is actually hard not to laugh

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The lack of empathy by so many of the politicians (and people) around the world really saddens me.

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Farage was very keen to get it out there that he was appointed by Tice. He had nothing to do with it.

What a cunt.

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I think Starmer has done alright on the international stage and I would not be confident in saying any of the other candidates would have handled it better.
However, I personally do not see it carrying any weight locally. I can understand people rightly or wrongly excusing/defending Labour as a Party since being voted in. However, in my opinion, he doesn’t convince or reassure people and the public don’t believe in him.
The sad thing is, if you asked me to name a better candidate across all parties I would struggle to.

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Thank god he was just the Housing spokesperson for Reform. Imagine the embarrassment if it was a more senior position in Government, like the British Ambassador to the US and someone else was made the scapegoat….:joy:

It’s a tongue in cheek comment :+1:t2:

Reforms polling is definitely declining. The Greens are rising but in my opinion this has been boosted by the Independent support, like in Denton.
I speak from my observations in Birmingham, i appreciate that this is just my opinion and may not be reflected Nationwide.
Labour are public enemy number, the Greens and Independent will steal their vote. Locally, the pro-Palestine independents will take the predominantly Muslim areas, which probably won’t make much noise on the Local elections.
What should worry Labour though is if it was a General Election they would lose a couple of high profile seats in Jess Phillips and Shabina Mahmood to the Independents.

I still predict a reform majority. I don’t think Labour/Greens will agree on a tactical vote and so I can see Lab/Green/Lib/Ind. stealing votes off each other more so than Tory/Reform.

The only positive I can see for Labour is the Locals being a massive wake up call.

Politician in “it wasn’t me” shocker!

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The Economist on London’s bad rep:

https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/01/28/london-is-far-safer-than-violent-viral-videos-will-have-you-believe?utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_content=discovery.content&utm_medium=social-media.content.np&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=Iwb21leARBEw9jbGNrBEES_WV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHkmKNjFK5g8cRJDpgDS_A6I0DLzpqqntaCJe7XHI1d8uEzopePZ9SjPP9nWE_aem_bnVfYgPtpY-lKRRdKNnW0g

Like effectively everything the RWNJs claim to be fact, turns out to be absolute bullshit.

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And “like effectively everything the RWNJs claim to be fact” the intelligent, more educated Left are happy to celebrate the small wins of proving a statement they consider RW wrong.
What a sad world we live in, do you not find it pathetic that you are cheering a morale win based on a pretty biased and baseless article?
Yippee the crime in London is scary but we have found an article to prove a RWNJ is wrong. :man_facepalming:t3:

How’s it baseless? London is statistically safer than most comparable cities, but yet is held up as a crime ridden sharia ruled hellhole by those on the extreme right wing. It’s important to counter these lies as they are the basis for fear mongering which causes division and hate. This is far more than partisan point scoring.

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