You are amusing, you come out with your usual moronic statement and rather than defend your point with facts, find it safer to try and call me out.
So okay, if I am acting Reform voter (which I am not) why does it bother you so much? Why can you not engage in a discussion, I mean going by your own assessment, I am RW/Reform, therefore stupid and simple, yet you fail to engage in any educated conversation.
I always find that if someone starts a sentence with, “the problem with you” it is because they don’t like being challenged.
As you say, it is a safe space. Maybe people will give you more respect, other than seeing you as the class clown, if you could offer more to the forum than a childish retort. If it makes you feel better, I will start liking your posts. I couldn’t having you feel less valued.
So your defence to Partisan point scoring, is making a rhetorical statement?
And yes you are allowed to introduce a new topic that has previously been mentioned .
Nothing in your reply supports the reason for me pulling up @sbym. I pulled him up because his first comment was to laugh off the importance of the matter as “RWNJ’s” making false statements.
It has nothing to do with LW articles, I am happy to hear both sides of a story and make my own mind up, are you???
Why are you so keen to mock me by claiming the Economist is too far left for me? What, on the premise of one article. You posted the original article and have yet to justify or support its content, or the reasoning for you posting it.
All I did was highlight the vagueness of their facts and state it was not a reason for celebration. Do you think it is a reason for celebration?
You can provide me with stats to support the point of serious crime falling, stats mean fuck all. Just like your YouGov comment of Starmer maybe being stronger by leaning himself with Europe from a poll of 2000 odd people.
Crime and disorder across the UK is as bad as it has ever been. Fuck trying to dismiss it as a Reform scare mongering tactic and Fuck believing everything to be all and well in London because Sadiq Khan tells us so. People are scared and do not feel safe, irrelevant of any political party.
I am not trying to fall out with you or anyone, I have never suggested people vote for Reform infact quite the opposite. I don’t see them as the answer to the UK’s problems but at the same time I don’t see Labour as the answer.
I will vote Lib Dem at the locals, purely because the candidate is the only one who has actually took the time to visit the neighbourhood and engage in direct conversation.
I am happy to engage with anyone on this site in a balanced debate about British Politics. People, including myself need to be more accepting of other peoples lived experience rather than calling them out in a black and white manner and stereotype them as being Right or Left wing, as there are a lot more colours in the spectrum, of which I know you are all aware of.
Statistics do not mean ‘fuck all’.
That’s a ridiculous statement akin to saying that science doesn’t matter. Our whole society is based on the scientific method and that requires the gathering of data. Virtually everything we do, transport systems, technologies, food and medicines, our economy; all of these things are based in some way on the gathering of statistics and to dismiss them as meaning ‘fuck all’ is ignorant and blinkered.
Britain is not more dangerous or crime ridden than it’s ever been. That is hysterical fear mongering, and the reason people feel that way is down to the relentless propaganda of the right wing press and politicians.
Have you stopped to question who benefits from creating a climate of fear and division?
Do whatever you want. I honestly could not give a fuck. The post that started all of his was a reply to someone else, at which point you inserted yourself into that fleeting interaction to tell me I am wrong and demand I debate you.
What the fuck?
I don’t care.
I don’t care for you, I don’t care for your world view, I don’t care if you like my posts or not. Do whatever you want, just don’t expect me to engage with you. To be honest, I need my fucking head examined replying to you in the first place. As I said several months ago, it won’t happen again.
Is it ignorant and blinkered? So what was the result of the Brexit vote? That is a stat yes or no?
Who was elected as the US President? Was that a stat or not?
So where do you want to accept or disagree with Stats?
Regarding scare mongering, was it not you who compared present day US and the UK to 1930’s Germany….?? I mean you forgot the whole White Supermacy, burning people on the Cross in the US 50s+, the National Front marches in the UK from the 70’s. But you are right, society is more dangerous, or maybe not as your “Stats” seem to suggest.
What is it? Is London a safer place or bordering on comparison’s with 1930’s Germany? You can’t have it both ways!!!
I will not be engaging anymore on this matter, because as someone mentioned privately I would be better off banging my head on a wall.
I have responded to yours and other posters points of view in a respectful manner. You are free to respond as you see fit but i will not reply.
I’ve never said that London resembles 1930s Germany, I don’t know where you got that from. I have pointed out similarities between the US under Trump and the rise of the Nazis. There are quite a few parallels.
Your responses have been to put words in my mouth and to wildly misrepresent what I’ve said. I don’t consider that respectful at all.
What was vague about their facts? They used actual statistics in the article. What it did indicate is that there is a disconnect between perceived crime and actual crime. That in itself is worth investigating.
I used to work in government, producing stats for elected officials and occasionally the public. The reason that these are used is because policy has to be based on things that are true.
I can recall people becoming critical because the statistics didn’t match their hypothesis. That is because either their hypothesis was wrong, or they were asking the wrong question.
People are scared and do not feel safe because social media algorithms are pumping select stories at them that make them feel unsafe. And certain parties lean into that for political gain (which makes it absolutely a party political issue).
Meanwhile independent crime surveys do not tally with public perception. In a lot of areas crime is actually falling.
Khan is right on this, and every nation should be stepping up their pressure on social media companies, including bans on operation if harmful content isn’t brought under control. Social media is the biggest threat to democracy right now.
It is a fair point, but I still see a massive difference between a politician (any politician) who will spin the narrative in a particular way to paint themselves in a positive light, and a whole ecosystem that just makes up any old shit, often racist, without any pushback.
I guess I trust myself (and most of you on here) to be able to see through the bullshit. It’s alarming how many can’t or won’t.
, are you not disappointed that your cheap dig at me only got one like?
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