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The Irish Government got loads wrong. Even during Covid.
But their response certainly stemmed the virus.
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I worked on a planning exercise around 2015 which was about a pandemic response (I think it was based around bird flu, but in theory it could apply to any airborne pathogen).
Recommendations were made. I actually implemented some of them for the Scottish government. But a plan was in place. However, plans are useless if they are ignored or the government fails to adapt to the actual situation.
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But we were told that UK couldnât shut the borders due to the EU even though a number of EU countries had already done so themselves.
I personally wouldnât trust anything any of these lying cunts say.
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As much as I understand your scepticism, I think this is more to do with their hubris/arrogance. We know too well so we donât need to look at what other countries are doing.
But how much of what it became was down to the Tories?
Even before the Pandemic, the Tories had deliberately run down and cleared out the UKs stockpile of Protective PPE. Our response planning was out of date.
Once we get into the Pandemic itself I think itâs debatable that a different Government (not going to make this party political - I think some of these would have been better under a more serious Tory admin) would have done the following.
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Squandered three weeks of planning/prep time watching the virus working itâs way across Europe. It was inevitably going to reach the UK. And Johnson did fuck all to get ahead of the game. He was more concerned with saving his marriage following another affair
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Fucked about going between the scientific advice to isolate, test and trace, their herd immunity gut feeling
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Put put ridiculously confusing messages around whether people should isolate or not.
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ignored the University biomedical infrastructure in favour of contracting out the testing to a company with no experience.
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VIP lane disaster capitalism approach to sourcing PPE. Most money wasted. Little PPE secured.
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The exam results scandal. This is the great forgotten Tory covid scandal, in which they weighted better exam results towards the posh kids. Cunts.
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ignored European vaccine programmes, in favour of going it alone. Because Brexit.
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The many breaches of lockdown rules with government.
Iâve probably forgotten loads, but there you go. We had the worst Covid in Europe. Thatâs what it became, and I think lots of that was because the Tories management of it was an absolute car crash.
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Notably âEat out to help outâ. Helped the virus spread, at least.
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Having a PM that understood the difference between fractions and percentages, especially when it applied to death rates would have been handyâŚ
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Yeah, third wave in one policy. All on Rishi, that one.
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I have very little respect for Corbyn, but I really cannot envision him steering the UKâs COVID response away from what every expert was telling him towards âjust take it on the chinâ. What Johnson was calling for had people around the world anticipating disaster as early as March 2020. I also simply cannot imagine Corbyn having the same indifference to evidence emerging from places like care homes. Every government everywhere made mistakes in 2020, it is inevitable when decisions and policy are made on the fly and executed in a timescale of weeks rather than years. But that doesnât mean the performance of various governments cannot be considered.
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Forgotten? I never heard anything about this.
I guess I mean more than just following the pandemic planning, such as the economic and social impact of the actions.
But youâre right, it was a feeling based on very little information.
Unless he listened to brother Piers of courseâŚ
Didnât he distance himself from Piersâ views quite early on in the pandemic?
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The will of the people wouldnât have been served. And moreover, as Iâve said many many times, the greatest mistake in political history (ish) was Labour not standing on a scrap BREXIT manifesto for Borisâs election. A second referendum without having one if you will.
No Cameron government, no Brexit referendum.
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Wouldnât have worked. 30% of labour voters in 2017 election are said to have voted for leave, about 4m people.
Plus, given Corbynâs personal view on the EU and his eagerness to push the government into leaving, he could never reverse that position entirely for the 2019 election.
A referendum was probably the best option as Labour, like the country itself was heavily split over Brexit.
Youâre assuming that party voting loyalty would have taken priority over BREXIT,
No, on the contrary my point is the opposite. Backing remain in 2019 would have seen Labour potentially lose up to 4m votes, with little scope for gaining enough votes to compensate. Corbyn was deeply unpopular amongst voters outside of his own party (and a number of labour voters switching parties had sighted him as a reason for their voting change).
Even then the numbers alone are not the issue but also the spread in the voting - any votes Labour would have gained from such a strategy would have been in places it won anyway, or perhaps had little chance of winning, while losing seats with a big Leave presence.
I agree that the Tories fucked up badly during Covid.
I still refuse to give a free pass to the hundreds of thousands of selfish cunts who did exactly what they wanted during Covid, and the hundreds of thousands of thick cunts who followed bad advice like naive dumb sheep
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