UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

FIFY

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There is some truth in that. Often governments specify targets and metrics to measure them by.

Goodhartā€™s Law then comes into play, ā€œWhen a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.ā€

With the LFS they are trying to make sense of the data. Iā€™ve actually just filled in a similar type of survey for the German Ministry of Labour and Social affairs regarding the experience of migrant workers. They offered a 5ā‚¬ gift voucher for filling in the survey. I donā€™t know if something similar would work with the IFS or if it would skew the figures, because they would get more responses from those that needed a petrol voucher or whatever.

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Absolutely unbelievably stupid idea. Why would you even begin to consider it?

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Pair of dodgy cunts.
Seem a perfect match

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We need a professional diplomat. Itā€™s too important for personality cults.

Unfortunately, Boris Johnson undermined that role.

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The Labour party is divided by this?

Fuck, we are in the shit.

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Itā€™s not even worth a secondā€™s thought.

I donā€™t understand the spinelessness of the centre left when confronted by the far right. Why donā€™t they show some fight ffs?!

Itā€™s the same in the States, itā€™s the same in Germany, it seems to be the same everywhere.

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I donā€™t understand the prevarication.

Farage: Would you like some help withā€¦

Labour: No, fuck off.

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Would it even take that many words.

You could easily cut it downt to 2 with ā€œGet fucked!ā€

Or one: cunt.

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Narrow it down please.
There are 2 cunts in the headline

Firstly, I am not suggesting it should happen or that it would be a good thing. However, it would also be a stupid not to consider it, would it not? If you remove the Party and the individual, it is quite a valid idea. Someone, who has a good rapport with Trump and Musk, would command a bit more respect with the objections/concerns of the Governmentā€¦

Just a quick question, what would Labour voters/members do if the PM engaged in this proposition?

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Your post is very dramatic to say the least. Labour hasnā€™t even agreed to entertain Farageā€™s idea and youā€™re having kittens.

Politics is about balance, most Governments - especially in the UK, would not be in power if they adopted predominantly Left or Right policies. Additionally, the majority of the public, the people who vote and decide the outcome of elections couldnā€™t care less about who was in power as long as it made their lives more prosperous, or in fact easier.

So a questionā€¦ Starmer entertains Farageā€™s proposal and with his help, the UK negotiates a really good trade deal with the US, with maybe a few Concessions that go against Labourā€™s principles. Would you be happy with this? Or would you feel Starmer/Labour sold out?

Ffs there is no good trade deal that involves a Trump lead US. That is bonkers to even consider it.

Secondly, do you honestly believe Farage has suggested that his involvement for the good of the Uk? He is a grifter that has done eff all for his constituents but is more ghan happy to attend Steve Bannon right wing boot camps and seminars telling wealthy people how to set up multi national citizenships and passports for tax avoidance.

Thirdly, there is not a single Farage policy that would make people wealthier. Not a chance. Itcwould make him wealthier though.

His involvement is lunacy on every level.

I would ask him how his Clacton surgeries are going.

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You spelt ā€œabsolute waste of fucking spaceā€ wrong.

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Heā€™s that as well.
So far heā€™s convinced 15k people to pay Ā£25 to be a member if Reform plc. As members they have no say in the party, no ownership, no voting rights, cannot question party leadership and so on.

Reform party membership has now grown larger than the Tory party membership.

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You spelt ā€œidiotsā€ wrong. :wink:

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That implies that everyone is an idiot.

I protest, i work damn hard at being special.

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Donā€™t worry - we all know youā€™re special. :wink:

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Ffs how do you know that? And guess what Trump is the President in waiting, so what does the Government do.

Starmer: Mandelson, donā€™t both going the US, Noo_Noo said that ā€œthere is no good trade deal that involves a Trump lead USā€. So letā€™s hold fire for 4/5 years.

Mandelson: Okay boss, but you do know we may not be in Government in 4/5 years.

No, and I didnā€™t suggest it was.
If you read my post I said to remove the party and the individual but you canā€™t even do that. If you did that then would it be an idea worth considering?

Who is in Power?ā€¦.it wouldnā€™t be Farageā€™s or An others policy.