UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

I really looks to me like a case of deeply uncool nerds trying/being told to do something more down with the kids. Or just being overworked and trying to cut corners.

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Iā€™m 46 and the only half decent Tory Prime Minister Iā€™ve seen was John Major, and he was roundly set upon by the party for not being enough of a bastard.

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Maybe not. Youā€™ve seen more than mostā€¦ :wink:

I would say the UK is no longer paying the Truss premium, which is a fairly positive development given the short time frame.

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I sadly think he is a very relevant figure, even in the UK. His social power there is far less than in the US, but he successfully influences many Norwegians too (as well as Germans, he makes waves there too), including those without twitter accounts. He is the most successful entrepenaur of our generation, he has very many who look up to him or at least respect him. All over the world.
His opinions carries weight, unfortunately.

Perhaps the best antidote is actually reading his twitter rants, many of his more sensible and ethically not broken, admirerers donā€™t, and some of them would probably be uncomfortable if they got the entite picture regarding that man.

But he is not to be underestimated, at least I would not dare to do. He has too much respect and money to ignore.

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Empty vesselsā€¦

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But thatā€™s what I was hinting at, Rambler. Most people are not interested in politics and it is these people who primarily look up to him due to his visions, his success and so on. Those people donā€™t read the tendentious trend of loathsome ideas and rants he posts on twitter and his Anti Woke Crusade and support for Hard Nationalists. They dont have or care about the full picture. They donā€™t care about politics that much, so admire him and respect him for different reasons. And often, they will at least give this ultra successful entepenaur an ear.

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People sure can be, or appear to be.

Ah, a post which I now read and that is music to my ears.

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In case you missed it, there was a very interesting article I reposted on that exact subject:

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Will read. Just a bit impractical right now, as I am waiting for my car to finish its check up (EU control), so I am just wasting time reading a book I brought and then taking breaks to write my golden nuggets to you (I take my duty seriously, doing my best to raise morale and everything!)

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Thereā€™s also quite a good opinion piece in todayā€™s NYT about just how odious , and ignorant ( ā€˜heā€™s also called for the jailing of Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and urged Britainā€™s king to dissolve Parliament and call new elections, something the monarch cannot doā€™.) this fucker is.

Free to read : https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/opinion/elon-musk-britain-sex-trafficking.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nU4.VTp0.S_3N4DZxqEi8&smid=url-share

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Agree we canā€™t ignore but that doesnā€™t mean cosying up/fearing him. Progressive leaders need to mobilise and come together to fight the billionaire facist power swoop thatā€™s happening around the world, before itā€™s too late

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The data in the US election was startling regarding this. People who donā€™t actively consume news right now encounter thoughts about it nonetheless and do so at levels weā€™ve never seen. That would not be bad if it wasnt for the reality that with the way the information environment is right now the polarization of that info is very consistent and seemingly convincing.

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As the youngsters would say these daysā€¦WTAF!!

How to make yourself even more unpopular in one easy step.

What mammoth bell end signed off on that?

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Who knew there were people out there who arenā€™t frothing like drooling idiots about the state of play right now??

None of this is easy. Ten years ago, the markets were saying loudly ā€œborrow and spendā€. George Osborne and David Cameron ignored them, and we are still paying the price for that catastrophic failure. Todayā€™s risks and opportunities are quite different, but Reeves and Keir Starmer, if they hold their nerve, can still avoid another lost decade.

Canā€™t see any of this analysis resonating with the dolts braying like lobotomised donkeys, but one can hopeā€¦

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Yeah, but the author is a professor at KCL and we all know not to trust experts.

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The discouraging thing for Labour has to be they are no longer paying the ā€˜moron premiumā€™ (aka the Truss premium), but global interest rates have pushed up borrowing costs to about the same level. The next Treasury auction is going to be absolutely critical. The UK could be right back in the soup, or clear a major hurdle and on a course of rebuilding confidence.

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Smug fuckers, those economists.

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Any thoughts on how far down the road confidence could be, assuming things go well for them?