It is utterly obvious a leadership spill will cause Labour more issues. Well done Tony for getting something right…
My comment was in reference to his bullshit statement that it is ‘delusional’ that the country doesn’t want a move to the left, as well as his simping for Trump.
Starmer’s Labour has moved to the right and look where it has taken them…labelling a potential reaction to that delusional?
And telling Trump to fuck off re Iran is essentially the only popular thing Starmer has done…
I actually voted for Blair a couple of times. I do not want to reflect on my decision making at the time because I still believe it was true.
However, as I have got older, I have come to detest him more and more.
In regards to your point, I think the local elections show there is support for the Left. So I agree, I do not see any reason why with good policies a left leaning Party cannot succeed.
However, there needs to be balance and if the Left want to be successful they need to be open to not suppressing RW politics. They can’t survive without each other.
Regarding Starmer, I think he has done quite well on the international stage, especially considering the current US President. However, the public are more concerned with what’s happening locally.
A genuine question and I apologise if you have already addressed this question, but accepting there will be issues with a leadership change within Labour what do you see as the best way forward for Labour?
https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/af4e6b6a-5c3d-45b5-ad44-fcad76db7f20
I know the idea the UK is ungovernable has been raised and dismissed in equal measure around here. I thought this was an interesting addition to the discussion.
And just to circle back to Blair…bit tone deaf to advocate we sack off net zero during the hottest May on record, innit?
Some good home truths in the article.
As the article alludes to, maybe there are too many “politicians” in Government. Trained in “best practice” and the “rules of Government”. It is all well and good being educated and with a favourable up bringing.
I have touched upon it before, there are no real leaders in politics. The Government can’t please everyone, it is physically impossible. The Government are elected to Govern rather than be governed. Sadly, it seems best practice is to not offend anyone which gets us no where.
Blair would be the first in the guilotine if I had my revolution
Out of interest who would be second 
Campbell.
Alistair. Not sol.
I was talking with someone yesterday and it was frankly a bit unsettling. It some how got to mass immigration and the boats coming over with young (mainly criminal) men that were invading the Uk and being put in 4 star hotels… It even got to him saying “Farage, well I don’t agree with everything he says but…” and “anyone but the Greens…” Was depressing in all ways. And of course the “right wing does not make you racist but the left control the BBC..” came out. How to escape was what was continuously going through my head… Even the, “…you might not like Trump but he’s been great for America…” came out. I countered that in fact he is the worst thing that could have happened to the US and that his wars have caused massive harm to the economy of Uk and other countries but it was just met with a blank stare. I was bewildered and trying to desperately escape either the subject area and/or the physical space…
It was unsettling, surreal and some how ironic as we were both sitting in the South of France having a beer and with no intention of going back to the Uk.
At least you had an idyllic environment to discuss the wrongs and the rights in the world. The South of France is beautiful, enjoy and maybe try a different topic tonight 
Reminds me of the bellend I worked with at the time of the referendum, bitterly complaining that he wasn’t allowed to post his vote for the Yes campaign, because he lived in England 
It actually reminds me more of Alex Salmond, who seemed to like London so much, that I got the impression that he wasn’t even that fussed on independence.
Someone help me here. I got a new phone recently and once I set it up, all my previous messages were there…
Nick Thomas-Symonds is asked again about the messages with Peter Mandelson that he was unable to release in Monday’s file drop because his phone was stolen.
It relies on the backups being available.
I’m assuming that this is WhatsApp again. I’m still trying to work out why government businesses is being done on WhatsApp.
Then again. I expect that the really seedy stuff is done on burner phones.
Ten years now since those Old Etonian assholes foisted their con on us and just look at the fucking state we’re in now. Shame on them and shame on the fools who believed their lies.
I’d prefer the plague meself …
It’s getting worse. Last couple of days have been stupidity on another level.
The brainless are emboldened
Excuse me Sir, can I respond without being called a shit stirer or destroying the narrative?
Fuck it im going to anyhow.
Whilst I can acknowledge there were lies/exaggerated claims by project Leave the article is pretty poor journalism.
In the articles opinion it was reckless for Cameron to offer a referendum, on the suggestion he wouldn’t get a majority and not have to fulfil this promise.
So why did he get a majority? Could it be because there was popular demand for it? Surely, if there was not a demand for it, as the Article suggests he wouldn’t of had a majority. Infact, there was so much of a demand for it the Country voted to Leave.
Irrespective of whether you or anyone else believes the Leave remain party lied, etc. It needs to be accepted that the Remain party didn’t do enough to sell the idea of staying in the EU.
I find it hard that people cant understand that whilst their were lies in the Leave campaign they didn’t have a mandate, it was speculation. The agreement had to be agreed with the EU and passed through Parliament a process hamstrung by both sides airing their laundry in Public.
What the article fails to do is understand that there was always going to be a knock on effect from teething problems, it also fails to take into consideration the Coronavirus and the war in the Ukraine. I won’t refer to the Iran war because it is effects are yet to be felt.
Additionally, what the article also massively fails to take into consideration is how the EU zone as a whole and notably how Germany’s and France’s economy have performed since 2016.
GDP has been better than both and check the Trade Surplus. Since 2016 the UK’s trade surplus is -9.9%, Germany’s is -22.4% and France’s is down by a massive -80.4%.
A lie the Article fails to address is the one spun by Remain, that the impact of Brexit would see London and the UK lose its position as a financial powerhouse, Banks leaving the City, etc. Yet despite other Financial hubs offering financial incentives London is still trading places with New York at the top and is the only European centre in the top 10.
I appreciate that there is still a lot of people who are unhappy with the referendum outcome. That is fair, everyone has an opinion and the decision has affected people differently. But it has been 10 years, in a very difficult environment, with a lot of international factors out of our control, having an effect Worldwide.
Infact, when we joined the EEC in 73, it took years to show benefit, but then again there was the Global Crash and the Financial bailout from the IMF in 76.
the 15 year anniversary will be more positive.
I completely agree, it definitely brings back memories of 2011 
I wonder if Boris would ever go across to Reform. The Bor-Nig ticket could just be the ticket they both need to complete dominion of the lands and usher in a new era.