Your point completely ignores the context of Farageās comments.
He hadnāt been seen for a significant amount of time, he was hiding over the Ā£5m gift story. And he then appears all of a sudden to give a 8min āAddress to the Nationā, because of the appalling circumstances of the murder.
This is a world apart from from the actual PM offering a positive message, to use your hypothetical example.
At the end of the day, he used a murder - against the explicit wishes of the victimās family - to advance his idea of a failing society. I guess weāll just have to wait for the next horrorshow to be told how the UK is collapsing, but only if it meets his specific criteria.
He has apparently got the support of between 200-300 MPs, so itās really game over for Starmer now. Guardian is speculating a matter of weeks
Starmer has reiterated that he will fight a leadership challenge. Someone needs to give him a slap in that case. Burnham will have limited time to make a case to the country that he should get a second Labour Term, and Starmer is just being absurd delaying a fight he cannot win.
More than happy to admit the verdict in his case passed me by. I vaguely remember the incident itself.
Not sure how this helps? Labour suspended him and now heās an independent. A jury found him not guilty, and in all honesty, Farage would be acquited if the comment Iāve referred to was tested in court.
I keep reading he is talking to lots of people over this weekend. I hope that is true.
Chief whip warns Starmer that growing number of MPs want exit timetable - https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/5c09cb14-b9ff-40c4-9fed-7ead9f9ff6fb via @FT
Gonna bang my drum againā¦itās all about the money. Iām not sure the UK is uniquely ungovernable, but so long as we allow wealth to be siphoned off by fewer and fewer people, I doubt anyone will have a fighting chance of setting things rightā¦
Big Tech is stoking unrest in the UK. Why? - https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/c8bfe7bd-f48e-4099-a364-f68a87dcb074 via @FT
(Both articles free to read)
But thatās part of the being ungovernable problem. Public opinion is largely shaped by eight billionaires who own the media, a few billionaires who control social media, and a bunch of foreign billionaires who regularly pump in destabilisation money.
Burnham is a left wing politician, and his instincts will be more redistributive than his six immediate predecessors, but people need to give him a chance. The aforementioned billionaires had managed to convince the average voter Starmer was the worst Prime Minister in living memory before heād even got his feet under the desk.
But the āaverage voterā put Starmer in No.10. I donāt get how that works, why didnāt those billionaires convince them to vote for somebody else?
Starmer didnāt waste any time convincing people he was one of/ the worst PMās in living memory, he didnāt need help from anybody else.
Deflect or justify it however you want. You did what you always do, which is to find something to use as leverage for your own political agenda.
In your own words, you acknowledged the horrific acts this young child experienced, resulting in his death and the first thing you could do is weaponise it to mock the RWās stereotyping of it only being foreigners who commit such atrocities.
Yes it is political, but is it not more important to understand how this happened, why the poor lad was failed.
And guess what, the predictable turn the attention to me with baseless slander trick.
Guess what, I have never jumped to his defence and if I have in anyway then so what? Does his or my actions justify yours? No!
You are just as pathetic as Farage and the RWās you detest. You attempt to call them out and at the same time highlight the hypocrite you are.
And, In regards to cherry picking your stories, did you mention anything about Henry Nowak? No, yet that was political. Did I bring up the subject? No I didnāt. Go figure!
so are you accepting that you may be wrong?
Look, I am not disputing the Stats. I could question how accurate the stats are but thatās a discussion I know will see us go round in circles and never agree upon.
As I said, I accept that peopleās thoughts on crime levels, feeling safe can be based on perception, whether that be from their own experience, word of mouth or from a media outlet.
People can feel unsafe without a crime being carried out, reported or logged as a statistic. If the boisterous lads on scooters make the old ladies feel unsafe then that is a fact and most likely a Stat which is not reported.
https://x.com/AJEnglish/status/2068463330923000173
Itās about time. This process has been too slow. He has been politically dead for far too long. The process has been very suboptimal. But at least it is now happening.
This does explain his humiliating lack of presence (he was technically there) on the G7 meeting, where it was a bit obvious (and written about in for instance the Norwegian press) that the UK was just a passenger.
Other than Burnham, there isnāt anyone really there who is popular enough to take over, so it was always going to lead to a waiting game while he got a seat.
How is it?
Explain to me how it is a ridiculous reading of his intentions.
Which normal person reads a horrific story involving the sexual abuse and murder of a toddler and on the back of it recalls an āexcellent article from a couple of weeks agoā which happens to be from a trusted LW source, which calls out Farage?
Even his response to my post highlights the true nature of his intentions. He could of said āLynchy, I think your words are out of order and you have misinterpreted my intentionsā or something to that affect but no, I get a number of posts in response trying to throw shade at me.
He doesnāt discuss the incident once, apart from using it as a link to an article which just so happens to support his personal views.
No question as to how something like this could of happened, no questioning of the vetting process, the Social Services involvement, no mention that the biological mother killed someone when she was 14 and has been in and out of prison since. How he was taken to hospital 3 times in the 4 months he was under their ācareā, how the main culprit was a teacher and so worked with young children and should of been subject to back ground checks.
But yeah, I suppose my reading of his intentions were ridiculousā¦.
I understand, but find it a bit sad. In my opinion, if the PM and party leader is stepping down, the party ought to hold an extraordinary leadership contest where a new leader and PM would be voted in by members. Ideally.
I understand this is now how it is done here, but it is still a slightly suboptimal process in my personal eyes and not optimal.
Because it was all part of Baldricks cunning plan.
Insert inept leader of the opposition.
Insert even more inept Liz Truss as Prime minister.
Push for inept leader of the opposition to become prime minister on the back of Change. Fool all these intelligent LW Labour voters, who are aware they are being lied to by said Billionaires, to vote for inept leader of the opposition.
Inept leader of the opposition proves he is inept, pushing people towards the chosen leader, the Holy Farage.
People vote for Farage, because of above mentioned tactical brilliance. Farage becomes Prime minister and upon his opening address pulls of his mask to reveal it is actually Blackadder himself!!
But wait, the drama doesnāt stop there. A brightly coloured van pulls up and a bunch of students with Cowardly dog turn up and pull Blackadders mask off to reveal the true villain, which happens to be no other than Lizard tongued David Icke!
I quite like Burnham and I will always respect his support for the JFT97.
I find he speaks quite well off his own intuition and is quite relatable. I also believe that being born in Liverpool and primarily advocating the North of the Country he is more likely to succeed in realigning Labour to its true values.
Like others have mentioned if he becomes Prime Minister he should be allowed time to implement his own ideas, unfortunately with Politics time waits for no man. It is however, in my opinion a step in the right direction for Labour.
I know many on this forum loves to loath the royals, which is totally fair. But this is pretty cool. He doesnāt have to do this.
I cannot really think of anything (that I have noticed) that he had done wrong in his role since his mother died. I think he has done very well, his job being what it is of course. He has certainly played a highly useful role in defusing tensions for the UK with Trump (nothing to sneer at, he may have saved you tariff penalties), as well as having played a very useful role in terms of protecting Ukraine from the same Orangutan.
Just my thoughts.
How long have you got to discuss the under funding?
I will give you some credit at least you didnāt just use the 14 years of Austerity rhetoric.
Letās face it, why limit it to 50 years? Vital services have consistently been under funded, thatās under Tory/Labour Leadership and also being part of the EU.
Unfortunately, there are so many questions and so few answers and the Country in my opinion has only got worse. I have said to you before, I would happily pay more Tax if it was used wisely, however, we all know that it will be most likely mis spent.
In an ideal world the rich would be contributing more to society, the HMRC would better at holding people to account. The money taken by the Government would be invested wisely, providing everyone with a idilic life, in an environmentally friendly world, where everyone was healthy and in sound mind.
Unfortunately, we live in a society where everyone has an excuse and someone else to blame for their own failings, where it is all too easy to take and not only that it is expected.
Blame the Rich, you are probably right to but we also need to look at ourselves. We blame the rich but use Google, buy from Amazon, watch Streaming services. Buy coffees from tax evading companies. Further more we ask for a greener environment/world but buy cheap products from China, which is then shipped half way across the world, delivered by shitty vans, only for us to go no I donāt like it and send it all the way back. We live in a society where we canāt walk to the local takeaway, we have to order it in, delivered by some bloke on a Moped again for a company shorting the Country on its tax commitments.
As I say you are probably right to blame the Rich, but we are all guilty.
Anyhow, you have your right to reply but I will not respond. I will draw a line under it rather than go back and forth.
As you have mentioned, a lot of people Loath the Royals and that is fine I respect that and I appreciate that there are most likely grounded reasoning for this.
Whilst accepting the history of monarch, highlighted recently with Andrew, is not without fault. I actually value the Monarchy, it provides an identity to the Country and gives extra weight to the UK and its Soft Power.
Which is why Burnham is probably screwed already. Having ascended to the office on the back of that, he will be spectacularly ill-placed to complain about having become the target. As soon as Tuesday, no one will care about Starmer. Burnham absolutely wonāt get a chance, he had best be ready to go and near-perfect from before he has any power.
It is funny, my brief time in government over 30 years ago felt like a siege, a real ordeal - we had to cut spending dramatically in the face of a recession, civil service layoffs, program cuts, etc. At the time it felt brutal, unfairly difficult.
But when I consider what Starmerās staff (or Burnhamās as of next week it appears) will face, it was all comparatively easy. Fast-growing economy made things better within three years, and obviously improving within two. That fast growth drew heavily on increasing trade under NAFTA, bringing down trade barriers and streamlining continental trade - almost the complete opposite of the Brexit situation that creates the UKās environment. I couldnāt hack it for two years, I have no idea how the people around No.10 can keep on with no sign of daylight.
Not quite the 6 months I predicted.
Iām not going to celebrate his removal, because the country is pretty much fucked whichever way we go, but this man is a gutless and devious snake, and definitely NOT a leader.
Letās face facts, he only won the election due to people ānot voting Toryā.
Well they got one, hope theyāre proud.