UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

I’d highly recommend this, 15mins long.

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Can I just add that you might want to look into the people that are actually behind and alongside Starmer. It paints quite a different picture

The crazy thing is, each party has different rules. It’s probably why the Conservatives were able to move between leaders so often.

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Will he reveal the tax receipts of the Duchy of Lancaster?

Sorry I can’t get behind this “look I pay tax too” effort. That kind of approach is all over social media, usually with the line of the top 5% pay 50% (don’t quote my numbers here) of all tax revenue kind of argument. Its just cloaking how wide the wealth gap is.

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That is usually a rather disingenuous argument, as they only quote income tax, and not the actual percentage of income that goes in tax overall.

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I was reliably informed after the election that the electorate had voted against the Tories rather than for Labour.

In any case the public option towards Starmer was totally disproportionate from day one. Within a couple of weeks he was being called two tier Keir, because a right wing nutcase went to prison for an offence put on the statute books by Thatcher, and in accordance with sentencing guidance introduced by Johnson.

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Maybe his suggested timeline for departure will be approximately three years?

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100%

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What an absurd attack and absolute shite. IMO, you should be booted. Please take your miserable right wing stupidity elsewhere.

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I’m not having a pop here, just trying to introduce a bit of levity if anything…but it did make me laugh.

It’s a drum you bang a lot, people being spoonfed their opinion by the right-wing media in various forms, but you can see through all the bullshit and propaganda and arrive at the right choices. Maybe people you disagree with are capable of forming opinions by themselves, without the help of the Daily M**l, GB news and Facebook?
I’ve lived in my house for over 30 years now. People have come and gone in the other 9 houses that form our little close. I’ve spoken with some of them a fair bit, others not so much. What I can say is I have never had the foggiest what form of social media they use, which tv channels they watch or which newspapers they read, if any.
It’s the same for my 2 best mates who I have known for 40 years and 55 years. I genuinely haven’t a clue what they watch, read or post on in their spare time.
Do you interrorgate your neighbours in the street? Demand to know where they get their information (or mis-information) from in the village hall?
Like I said, only joking, but I’m at a loss how you’d know these things.

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I like you as a poster and agree with most of what you write but this is a fucking terrible post.
It stinks of left-wing intolerance and the need to cancel anyone who holds a different opinion to your own.
The irony is it’s always the left who trot out the “this is how the 3rd Reich started” nonsense and yet it’s always the left who throw the insults and demand bans.

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You’ve never bumped into a neighbour in the local shop and had a chat while they are buying their Newpaper?

Maybe you should try and socialise with your neighbours a bit more?

There you go again, leaping into a discussion with two feet without bothering to pay a cursory glance and the origins of the conversation.

Lynch wasn’t being pulled up for his political opinions. He was being pulled up because he accused @SBYM of using the murder of a child as an excuse to push a political opinion - which was frankly horseshit, nothing close to what he said.

Can I ask if you agree with everything @Lynch04 wrote in that post?

Personally, I thought there was a lot in there that deserved to be challenged.

No, I haven’t. I don’t use the local shop as they over-charge. I don’t recall ever seeing one of my neighbours in there the odd time I’ve used it.
I tend to mind my own business.

I’ve just re-read it and it’s pretty clear what he was asking for.
The usual insults are still there too.

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I’m not going to re-read it. Whether I agree with some or all of it is irrelevant.The only bit I remember without re-reading it is Lynch remarking on the ludicrous idea of someone reading about a horrific crime and linking it to an article they read weeks before. There’s no real connection to be made and I agree with Lynch, it was used as an excuse to criticise Farage.
And it wasn’t a challenge. It was a suggestion Lynch should be banned, followed by personal insults.

Has Nigel piped up with his two cents on Friday evening’s events in Edinburgh yet?

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Burnham will tax and spend even more. Who the heck voted Labour? You knew it would happen.

There sort of is, because Farage is silent here, as he was for Jo Cox initially, Sarah Everard and many other horrible crimes. And think it is extremely relevant how Farage has reacted, or not to each of those cases and others. Did he condone the violence that followed?

Which is the whole point here. It was politicking on the back of a tragedy. No real sympathy, empathy or even respecting the wishes of Novak’s parents.

If other politicians have done the same I’m more than happy for people to call them out. It’s just wrong.

I think there’s other things in that post that should be challenged. For another time perhaps.

Just to add, I’m not a fan in calling for bans either. That’s for the powers that be where they have responsibilities regarding the content on these pages.

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