UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

Mascot checking the papers /and what social media his neighbours use.

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Yeah I shouldn’t go around calling for bans. Glass houses and all that. The comment just riles me I think because I assume @SBYM is a defenceless cobba stuck in blighty - whereas in fact he’s probably a hugely privileged Aussie having a whale of a time in the UK ignoring all the invisible English class barriers and subverting the social order one garden party at a time.

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It all suggests all party leaders should be commenting on every rape/ murder/ tragedy/ atrocity regardless of whether it supports their individual stance when the reality is none of them ever do.

Again, true of all politicians spouting hollow platitudes over and over while ignoring the root issues and concerns of the people they are supposed to be representing. Not taking sides here, they’re all guilty of it.

Of course not. Some crimes / occurrences are politically motivated, others become political because of what gets said about them.

Jo Cox was a political murder. Numerous politicians of all colours came out and condemned it, apart from Farage.

Nowak’s murder became political because of what Farage said despite the parents requesting that it shouldn’t be viewed or used in that way. Farage went out of his way to ignore that. The other example is of course the riots that followed the Southport murders. Guess who was spreading false information about that one.

I can sort of agree with you here. I can’t think of a UK PM that has honestly put people first for quite some time, but I’d also argue it’s a world wide issue. We live in a system that doesn’t really work for us, yet will ultimately fail because it relies wholly on us. I think we’re slowly but surely entering the end game.

This is the kind of thing that Labour should be all about. Can’t believe it’s took this long for someone to finally grasp the nettle.

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I never said I check my neighbours social media. Obviously. Given most of them are pensioners, I doubt they have much to do with the socials. But you don’t have to be into deep surveillance to know what newspaper your neighbours read.

It was worse than that.

When leave won the referendum the cunt came out and declared it was a bloodless revolution, without a shot fired.

I bet that landed hard with Jo Cox’s family.

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@lynch was doing his usual thing of jumping in with a perceived ‘gotcha’, and it was a pretty disgusting attempt.

It isn’t ludicrous to see a horrific crime, and the thought of it take your mind back to some relevant reading on a similar subject.

When Sarah Everard was murdered, I immediately thought of a terrifying report I read perhaps a year earlier about the culture of casual misogyny and sexist within the Met Police. Making those causal links isn’t opportunism or point scoring.

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And so he fucking should. He just needs to make sure he is taxing the right people.

The last twenty years of our economic policy can be mostly seen as transfering vast amounts of wealth from poorer people to richer people. That money has to come back, and it should be the raison d’etre of any progress government to make that happen.

I don’t really blame people for drifting to Reform, and frustrating as it can be to watch people wilfully getting conned. People want a big vision. The need a baddie to focus on, and they need to see how the change is happening.

Left and Right doesn’t matter anymore - people don’t see themselves those terms, and in the absence of a rallying, transformative narrative from The Left, the will happily swing behind The Right.

I think Starmer was harshly and prematurely judged, but fundamentally he didn’t understand this. He has tried to govern cautiously and pragmatically, without rocking any boats, and that isn’t what people want.

I’ve always had time for Andy Burnham - he’s done really well in Manchester - but he has to set out a really clear vision for the change he needs people to buy into.

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I wouldn’t have the first clue what if any newspapers my neighbours read, even if i was to try spying on them.
To claim otherwise would be wild speculative guesswork

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I think it is sometimes surprising to see what papers people do read as it doesn’t always match their politics. Sometimes they want decent journalism. Sometimes they just like the crossword.

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Same here but I’ve had the odd conversation across the garden fence and my expression is as below

Does anyone even read newspapers any more?

I haven’t bought one for probably over 20 years.

The last newsagents near me closed 2 years ago.

I know the family and they said in the end they were hardly selling any newspapers and were heavily reliant on confectionery sales which wasn’t sustainable..

My daughter is in her late 30s and told me a while ago that she hasn’t bought a newspaper in her whole life.

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I was referring to the openness; which according to your law, is far from necessary.

I don’t really understand what this has to do with a wider taxation and wealth distribution debate. Imo, the appanage of British royals is way, way too high; but that is very much extremely besides the point and has little to do with my praise of openness, when no such thing is required.

The government has already started nationalising sectors such as rail and stee hasnt it?l

It hasnt done so with energy & utilities yet most likely due to the cost that would be involved?

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Last time I read one regularly was around 2010. It was the Metro. It was free, I liked the Sudoku puzzle, and letters pages written by Glaswegians are mental.

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I do enjoy a printed newspaper whenever one is there to read.

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It’s part of an effort to keep them as the good guys and slots in nicely alongside with the how much money do the Royals bring in to the UK for

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They should be shouting this from the rafters. It’s just not hitting home.

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I liked it for the crossword…
p.s. used to read it on the 32 from Cramond.

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