UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

Has it cracked yet?

Tried a chimnea years ago.

Where Are They No Fans GIF by Hashtag United Official

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Nah…going strong.

Works a treat.

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You mean the kamado style bbq? Took me years to convince the wife no one would steal it from the lake. I don’t think she fully appreciated the effort of carrying it down a 10 meter hill…

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Yep. I lifted it onto the stand on my own. Nearly blew my stomach out my arse.

It had to sit on the upper level of the deck until we had a bbq and some mates could help me carry it down to where I wanted it.

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Can confirm…Mester wilkored08 converted one…and it burns like a dream..

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Umm don’t eggs roll down hills?

Well, they probably also roll to the bottom of a lake too. But the bigger concern was any kind of impact, they crack pretty easily

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Fuck me, you are everything that you tried to call me out to be.

@redfanman or another thread favourite, quotes part of my post, removing the context and because you have a personal issue with me, you have to make a snarky remark. Well put another tick on your wall chart!

Why, is it that people can’t have a discussion about the suggestion(s)? Ironically, one of the thread favourites only a couple of posts ago was on about adults holding conversation.

Have you read the review by Lord Darzi?

28. There are some important themes that have emerged for how to repair the NHS, which will need to be considered alongside strategies to improve the nation’s health and reforms to social care

You asked me to identify the major themes for the forthcoming 10-year health plan. These include the following:####

So, sorry, my bad for not being aware that a review had taken place. However, no plan has been put in place, no spending committed to or budgeted for - so probably going to follow the same route as a recent defence review.

So I stand by my concerns. I would also love to hear your thoughts on how to address the issues the NHS is facing.

thats not true.

its everywhere now.

basically you make going to the tip too expensive, some councils have banned hard rubbish, and commercial bins are off the charts…

what you end up with is people dumping shit everywhere…

and…amazing amazement of amazingness… people who have won a ā€˜council contract’ (legitimately…of course) are paid three times as much as if the council just left the fucking tips open in the first place…

modern governance in a nut shell.

close the tips becuse its cheaper…outsource the resultant fallout at a much increased cost…FTW

edit…the tips arent closed of course, they are just too far apart, and too expensive…just throw the shit on a curbside at the latest new development estate.

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Beurocracy too.
Mitsubishi L200 pick up - Not allowed.
Range Rover, which with the rear seats down holds as much if not more - No problem, visit as often as you want.

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As a comparison, we have what is known as a Sperrmüll collection in Germany. Each household is entitled to have waste up to 6m³ collected free of charge up to twice per year. (It’s about 75€ after that). The result is that you don’t get flytipping - or at least it is rare.

Additionally, they tend not to be complete arseholes about household waste. There is a national categorisation of waste and it covers most things. The residual waste is basically just a bucket.

It’s not perfect. People aren’t perfect. But when the government and population actually behave like adults over waste its much less of a problem.

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Unlike ours.
Regularly open the bin desperately trying to find something in there to give them reason not to empty it

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Because council tips use council staff. Getting rid means they can show a saving, while the contractors cost appears in another part of the department budget and under less scrutiny. There will be the cost of tendering the contract as well.

I’ve seen this in action

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yep, its a gross misuse of public funds, most people with even a cursory insight know whats what, and ultimately, its disgusting the way the public are held in such contempt.

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Yeah.
My experience was joining an engineering consultancy that was basically formed off the back the back of various councils getting rid of all their highway engineering staff. In my time there, that company was then bought out by a massive US firm.

From the councils perspective they showed a massive saving in staff costs, but our costs then came out of their highway revenue and capital budgets. Those budgets barely moved during my time there, while our costs certainly did.

What also happened with councils and local authorities that let blue white collar contracts for their entire highway services was completely off the scale. I was involved in that for a while too.

Ah dude…

Not happy to hear this at all. Around here you see a whole kitchen in pieces and dumped on the side of the road. Can’t recall ever seeing stuff like that in Oz, but I will of course defer to you on it!!

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Many years ago, you could arrange an additional kerbside pick up at the cost of £10.
We had used the service a couple of times, getting rid of kids stuff as my lad grew older.
Twice in succession, I saw a car pull up (we live in a cul de sac) and a well dressed bloke got out and brazenly lifted a bike and then a mini trampoline we’d left out.
Cheeky twat.

Couple of weeks later we’d arranged for a VHS video recorder to be uplifted.
Same bloke pulled up and lifted it.

I still chuckle at what his reaction will have been when he put a tape in and realised the reason it wasn’t working was because of the dog shit I’d put inside the machine

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This!

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Nice one,bet he was cured!

Comes across as petty this. Like it wouldn’t go through quickly under Burnham? I struggle to think of any current politician that did more than Burnham to finally expose the truth.

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