UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

I actually worked for BT in the late 1980s. I have wondered whether privatisation played that much of part in updating the network. They had developed System X in the late 1970s and that started to be installed in the early 1980s, replacing the old Strowger exchanges. BT was privatised shortly after.

That may have meant that they could raise finance more easily tofund that, but most of the improvement in the network was down to technological innovation that was already underway, rather than a change in management. I’ve always found the argument that privatisation was the catalyst for that rather spurious.

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I don’t think the government of the day, nor the preceding ones, were willing to make most of that investment. BT was moving very slowly to take advantage of the innovation it had in hand, but it was moving.

I would agree though that it was a mixed result. Britain actually early on had a leadership position in fibre optics, in terms of technology, deployment, and production. Most of that was thrown away, the baby in the bathwater of privatization. Much of the technology ended up in the US, many of the engineers ended up in North America, by the mid90s the UK was not producing fibre optics, and the pace of the deployment of the fibre optic network did not really pick up for nearly 20 years. Britain might have had the very first universal fibre optic network with just a little more care in the privatization process.

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I recall that much of the technology that Japan advanced in during that period was also from british tech…

In the 90s ā€˜Silicon Valley North’ tech scene around Ottawa, Imperial College was jokingly referred to as Canada’s best graduate program in electrical engineering.

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I just think it’s one part of a much bigger story. Process (mentioned above), resources, funding, and these little private elements. I’d even say the whole health board model needs questioning.

Agree with everything else you mention.

Apparently Angela Raynor as Health Secretary! You could not make it up.

Welcome back to the 70s…. At least I am young again!

The only one that matters immediately is the Chancellor. The reports that the government will alter the BoE’s mandate have injected some nerves already

There’s part of me that thinks a complete fresh start with fresh names and faces might get him off to a better start. That’s if those people are capable of course.

Exactly. Same old faces and baggage. Asking for trouble.

Dont think there will be many fresh faces.

Yeah, you don’t promise to end factionalism and then kick off with what amounts to a purge.

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My thinking is the likes of Miliband and Raynor are just easy targets. Why start with having to defend your choices?

They’re popular within their factions and it wouldnt take much for them to be accepted by voters once some of the reforms start rolling or if the government are able to make headway on the cost of living front.

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Easy targets as one is a demonstrably failed leader who has followed ruinous net zero targets at all cost. The other resigned due to avoiding stamp duty - oh sorry, honest mistake just like Sturgeon not seeing a motorhome!

Why open yourself to that? But it just shows how politics recycles people who have failed or erred.

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Nigel Farage being the classic example of that. The original unflushable turd.

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Thankfully he’s unlikely to be in a position of power to do too much damage though.
Madcap Milliband on the other hand

What is your problem with Milliband?

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Well aside from the Brexit, he is constantly platformed by the BBC, spreading his lies and deceit. He does a huge amount of damage to the country. I expect that some senior execs at the BBC are shitting themselves now the details of his handlers are seeping through.

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Fair comment, but the damage he can influence is reliant on gullible idiots following his lead.
While there are plenty around, there can’t be enough to put him in power.
Can there?

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