UK Politics Thread (Part 5)

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NCB lost, insurance doubled, should be charged for wreckless driving, just to hurl abuse at a politician.
What a fucking dope.

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Two women are killed every week by their partner or former partners. 1 in 4 women will be the victim of domestic abuse. 1 in 5 will be sexually abused. But heaven forbid a women shouts some hurty words at you. I’m so sorry you feel this is being rammed down your throat.

Let’s make a women’s right to not be killed or raped contingent on being as good as gold, and never doing anything that would upset a man. Would that be better for you? Would that make you happy?

Seriously, get some fucking perspective. Women dream that the worst they have to worry about is someone shouting abuse at them from a car.

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TLDL (or read the comments); précis please?

Sounds like pound shop version of Australia’s superannuation scheme.

It’s really not. Thatcher destroyed the joint; Cameron ensured it can’t be fixed for an extra couple of decades due to brexit. In comparison, Blair just crushed idealism in a generation of young voters, largely for poor judgement in Iraq. He’s getting lapped by the competition.

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Leonardo Dicaprio Smile GIF

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I’m not so sure. Thatcher and Cameron were exactly who they said they were. They didn’t pretend to be something they weren’t.

Blair came to power offering change, hope and a different agenda to the Tories. Then proceeded to slavishly follow exactly the same neo-liberal, pro privatisation, deregulated financial sector agenda.

Thatcher and Cameron were much worse, but they weren’t liars.

The main issue I have with Blair is the under the scenes privatisation that happened during his time. He basically chipped at the foundations of what we have.

I see @Mascot has said it better.

I would add this all comes with the benefit of hindsight.

I think you have to also take into account the circumstances at the time though. Labour hadn’t won an election for nearly 20 years and privatisation in some form or other was going on almost everywhere.

For many industries, moving them in to the private sector is fine, or bringing in the market sector to play some role. It just needs better regulation/ design.

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Anything that is a natural monopoly, or an essential public service should be in public control. Anything else can be in private hands.

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This is it in a nutshell.

Zucman lays out his arguments and Rory looks like someone just wiped dogshit under his nose.

Rory is still wedded to trickle-down, guaranteed, and everything he says basically boils down to ‘don’t upset the rich people, they’ll use their money to run away.’

They really didn’t give him a fair shake, imo. Disappointing.

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Raynor not paying back her severance pay after lambasting Conservatives for leaving then rejoining government.

It’s that type of points scoring talk and then hypocrisy that is turning people off politics.

Not a surprise with her given her love of money!

And yes she is odious. But should speaking and second jobs be allowed for an MP? Surely distracts them..

Angela Rayner earned more than £180,000 during her “year off” from Cabinet, The Telegraph can reveal.

The Housing Secretary received £182,376 from second jobs, including corporate speaking engagements and a book advance, as well as a £16,876 ministerial exit payment after resigning last autumn.

Ms Rayner resigned as Housing Minister after The Telegraph revealed she had dodged a £40,000 stamp duty bill on the purchase of her second home in Hove, East Sussex. She was reappointed to her old job by Andy Burnham and has refused to repay the severance payment.

The MPs’ financial interests logs show that since September, Ms Rayner earned £104,000 from speaking fees, £61,500 for an advance on a book and just less than £17,000 in the severance payment.

Her most lucrative speeches included a £19,000 engagement with the Management Consultancies Association and a £20,000 speech for Deutsche Bank, which was accompanied by a £1,000 hotel room and a £250 dinner.

Another job pocketed her £20,000 for a two-hour speaking engagement with Propertymark, a trade body for the property sector.

This came on top of the basic annual salary of an MP, which rose from £93,904 to £98,599 in April 2026.

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In my opinion, no.

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I have wondered this.

But there’s also part of me that sits and thinks that a government pays a consultant to tender a service. They then pay contractor for that service. They also pay for a project management service to facilitate that contract. At the same time they pay a Regulator to check the Contractor is behaving.

Are we sure this offers best bang for buck?

I guess the answer is something like depends

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Absolutely, MPs should not have second jobs or strings of side hustles while representing the people. It should be a full time job, and there is not an MP is the country who’s constituents wouldn’t benefit from more time from their elected representative.

But, why is Raynor getting this again, when her earnings will be a drop in the ocean compared to those on the opposite benches (and some on the same benches) The right wing press absolutely fucking loathe her, and it’s barely disguised that there is a weird toxic mix of sexism and classism to everything the drag up on her. Reform are going all in on how corrupt she is, totally ignoring their own leader

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Looks like she might have to re-write some passages in her book now she is employed by the party again eh

They’re ALL conniving rats, all with dirty deeds to hide, all fair game.
It’ll be a different conniving rat getting it next week

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