US Election 2024

Yet, millions of people will vote for him and he might even become the POTUS.

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Party pooper :roll_eyes:

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Childless cat ladies are not capable of energizing the youth.

Taylor Swift does a decent job of it.

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Convicted convict, sexual assaulter and con-man who refused to rent his property to black people.

Vs

Doesn’t have kids but does have cats.

NY Times: “Both candidates have flaws”.

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I liked the ‘Christians don’t vote’ gymnastics on display here.

This…

Economic reporters - “oh no, unemployment is too low and that is bad news for business”

Also economic reporters - “oh no, despite record low unemployment levels there was a small increase this month and business have now decided that is also bad”

Ultimately, economic reporters - a Dem is in the white house as everyone knows republicans are better for the economy despite all evidence to the contrary we have to wish a recession into being.

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To this point…

https://x.com/ScottWRasmussen/status/1819362636384846022

Scott is the Rasmussen from Rasmussen polling me and @Sweeting were discussing last week as being a RW ideologically driven group that exists only to skew the debates and national averages, but Scott sold the company in 2013 back when they were legit and these data come from the well respected new venture he set up after the Rasmussen sale.

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Rat Fucking

In short, Musk started a PAC that is pushing ads on twitter linking to a voter registration portal. Once there the website determines if the user is in a swing state, and if so they are not redirected to an actual voter registration site, but to their own data collection portal that collects their personal data so it can be used to push pro trump information to them.

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Is that even legal?

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Shouldn’t be. Also, someone should shoot Elon in the nutz with a shotgun…for several reasons.

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So what I’m getting from that is RFK Jr. is going to save American democracy, unless Trump asks him to step down.

In the uk we prefer bricks. See whats happening thread.

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Despite being a Trump world invention, the 538 polling average seems to suggest he is hurting Trump more than helping him. So yeah, we’ll see if Trump world continue to fund him and whether he stays the course

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A breathtaking scam: Inside Georgia’s newest voter suppression tactic | Opinion

Republicans in Georgia have been champions at pioneering new ways to disenfranchise Democratic voters. Their latest scam is breathtaking.

First, the background.

When Georgia’s Republican Governor Brian Kemp was Secretary of State — the state’s top elections official — and running against Stacey Abrams for Governor in 2018, Abrams’ organization had registered 53,000 people (70% African American) to vote. Kemp put those registrations on hold so they couldn’t vote in the 2018 election, which he won by 54,723 votes.

But that was just the beginning for Kemp. By the year prior to the 2018 election he’d purged a total of 1.4 million voters from the rolls, claiming he was just removing people who’d died or moved. On a single night in July 2017 he removed half a million voters, about 8% of all registered Georgia voters, an act The Atlanta Journal-Constitution said “may represent the largest mass disenfranchisement in US history.”

Investigative reporter Greg Palast hired the company Amazon uses to verify addresses and ran the names and addresses of those 534,000 people Kemp purged that July day through their system: 334,000 of them, most Black, had neither died nor moved. But they’d sure lost their right to vote.

Then Kemp shut down 8 percent of all the polling places in Georgia just before the election, the majority — recommended as a “cost saving move” by a white consultant Kemp had hired — in Black neighbourhoods. Did I mention that he “won” that election by only 54,723 votes?

In 2020, when Stacey Abrams again challenged Kemp for the governorship, Kemp’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (pronounced “Raff-ens-purger”) purged another 309,000 voters from the rolls; Palast hired the company again and found that 198,351 of them had neither died nor moved.

It’s worth noting that if Brian Kemp wanted to take away a gun from any Georgia resident, Republicans on the Supreme Court have ruled that he’d have to go to court and prove his case; to purge voters from the rolls and take away their votes, though, Republicans on the Supreme Court have also ruled that Kemp doesn’t even need to notify those voters.

This year, Kemp signed a new law allowing any citizen to present a list of voters they believe must be purged from the rolls; one person, Marjorie Taylor Greene ally and Republican activist Pam Reardon, submitted a list of 32,000 voters, and the Chairman of the Ft. Benning area GOP, Alton Russell, challenged over 4,000 voters. A total of 149,000 voters were challenged by a handful of white Republican activists.

These tricks have helped keep Republicans in charge of Georgia politics, a state that would almost certainly be blue if every citizen were allowed to easily vote.

But there was some blowback to Kemp’s and Raffensperger’s “mass purge by vote vigilantes” strategy, so now comes Kemp’s latest trick.

This week Georgia rolled out a new website where people can let the state know they’ve moved (or their relative has died) and cancel their voter registration online. It’s super easy; you just plug in your information and, poof, your voter registration vanishes.

This would seem to be a solution in search of a problem. For example, over the past 50 years I’ve lived in Michigan, New Hampshire, Germany, Georgia, Vermont, Oregon, Washington DC, and then Oregon again: I never once let a state know I’d moved. Nobody does .

Instead, states track death records and the expiration of drivers’ licenses to determine who’s died and moved so they can then cancel registrations appropriately. My being registered to vote in both, say, Washington DC and Oregon when I only live in Oregon, is not a problem for DC if I don’t try to vote there. And nobody ever tries to vote twice just because they’ve moved; it’s a form of “voter fraud” that just doesn’t happen in any meaningful numbers.

But “keeping the voter rolls clean” — as if it were an urgent imperative making the wait for drivers’ licenses to expire just too dangerous — is the new excuse for Kemp’s Georgia website. Nobody’s believing the GOP’s “mass voter fraud” schtick anymore, so they’re reverting to this rational-sounding new way of getting Democrats removed from the voting rolls.

The problem with the new “cancel my registration” site is that bad actors, if they know a person’s name, address, DOB, and either Social Security or drivers’ license number, can simply go in and cancel other people they don’t want voting.

The “safety barrier” is that Republican activists who want to delete voter registrations in areas they know are heavily Democratic might be deterred from trying to do that with this new site, because they don’t have all that data on every Georgia voter.

Until this week.

For an hour on Monday, the entire Georgia voter database — including names, addresses, dates of birth, and Social Security and drivers’ license numbers — was publicly posted on that very site. Oops, Kemp said! Anybody could download it and share it with others, including Republican activists who might want to keep on purging Democratic voters.

As the Executive Director of the Georgia Democratic Party said, “This portal is ripe for abuse by right-wing activists who are already submitting mass voter challenges meant to disenfranchise Georgians.”

When the Associated Press — which downloaded and printed out the list — showed it to the Georgia State Senate Minority Leader Gloria Butler, she was horrified, pointing out, “If someone knows my birthdate, you could get in and pull up my information and change my registration.”

This is nuts.

Vice President Kamala Harris has promised that if she’s elected president and gets a Democratic House and Senate, the first piece of legislation she’ll sign will be the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, which will put an end to Kemp’s games in Georgia and similar Republican stunts across the nation.

If you think it should be harder to take away your vote than your gun, double-check your voter registration (especially if you live in a Red state) and show up this fall!

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I’m wondering what’s stopping a left-wing activist from turning the tables on them and using the same weapon against them?

:man_shrugging: Everything always seems so sinister with the Republicans - Hope they get trounced

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Sounds like a conspiracy theory based on loosely gathered truths.

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Abrams took a lot of shit over her comments around the 2018 for allegedly bringing it into disrepute for daring to question the legitimacy of the election. To those in the main stream media desperate to demonstrate their fairness to the RW, this was no different than Trump. The under current though was she was not just wildly accusing people and trying to misdirect. She was identifying documented cases of disenfranchisement, taking them to courts and raising awareness of the courts unwillingness to do anything about it. In pretty much every case she won them on the merits, but on most they refused to grant any remedy claiming it was too close to the election to do anything for fear of looking political. So when she said it was not possible to have a fair election in GA it was because the courts agreed with her that her voters were being targeted for disenfranchisement but that they would do nothing about it until after the election. She lost a race by a razor thin margins that the courts agreed ahead of time was being rat fucked but refused to do anything about it.

This is why the positioning of Kemp as one of the good guys is so fucked up just because he rejected Trump’s clownish attempt to steal the election. The difference between Trump and the old establishment GOP is not faith in democracy, but decorum.

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