A perfect illustration of how incongruent the data are in this election and how misdirected someone can be from focusing on one piece of it
https://x.com/amyewalter/status/1841440805761810571?s=61&t=VxX1vHU3NOwwNhlbyICG-g
So, Harris wipes out trump’s advantage on his number 1 issue and that is associated with trump seeing a big bump in independents. None of that tracks at all.
He has never even bothered to hide his contempt for US service members.
Scumbaggiest weirdo of the modern era
Mr bone spurs minimizing trauma as headaches…
Yet isn’t he leading among veterans?
Veterans fairly reliably split 60/40 Republican/Democrat, polls don’t show that changing this election.
Maybe veterans are capable of reading through the BS? Republicans and Democrats are guilty of creating BS stories or embellishing them and believing that one of these stories will sway an entire voting block, this is not the way it works in reality. For every headache story there is a Afghanistan withdraw story.
Well, the Afghanistan withdrawal stories should be damning for Trump more than Biden. FFS, the clown still says he wanted to hold onto Bagram airport post-withdrawal. Anyone actually remotely close to that problem in the military cannot do anything but roll their eyes.
I think it is pretty basic, the partisan split has not caught up with the current comprador status of the GOP, and hearkens back to the likes of Reagan. Traditional GOP values are more aligned with military values for a significant part of the population - but equally, the military is seen as a real force for social integration in parts of the Democratic base. So that 60/40 split has endured since the 1950s.
One interesting finding in Pew’s research on it is that veterans don’t actually trust Trump as a leader and think he should rely more on military leadership…but support him anyway. That analysis goes back to his Presidency, however I would be surprised if it had moved much.
This is a case in point, in that you get a split on what veterans think is right, some believe Trump is to blame, while others blame Biden. While this particular issue might not be split 60/40, in the long run, while accumulating all issues that veterans care about, as you mentioned the split is currently 60/40. It’s 7+ years since Trump was president, 3+ since he left office, so this is plenty of time for veterans to deviate from the 60/40 split. At the end of the day, if you believe the stats, veterans don’t believe that Trump has shown contempt for them.
Well, that’s the thing - that split seems awfully resilient. There are loads of veterans who are keenly aware of Trump’s expressed views, but lots that don’t seem to care. About 40% of veterans don’t think Trump has much respect for them.
Again, 2019 data, but there is little to suggest in the voter intention studies in 2024 that this split has moved much. Republican veterans vote for Trump even though maybe 1 in 4 thinks he could have more respect (‘a fair amount’) while Democratic veterans don’t like him.
Out of curiosity It would be nice to see the chart for Biden or Harris.
I don’t know that it exists. Certainly not for Harris, this kind of Pew study is intentionally not done during elections. Their studies for voter intention are though.
Stating what veterans appear to believe (who they support) is not a rebuttal to an objective description of a situation (what happened with the Afghanistan withdrawal), it is merely an example of how resolute the traditional support for team GOP is. You are countering an argument with ideas that aren’t remotely refutations of them.
Understanding politics requires one to be at peace with the fact people very often have opinions, sometimes strong ones, about things they know nothing about. We don’t need to pretend something is true just because a certain number of,people believe it
Case in point
https://x.com/hegelwcrmcheese/status/1841485364357390660?s=61&t=VxX1vHU3NOwwNhlbyICG-g
Make America 2019 so Taylor can still be young enough to qualify as a dependent on her parents coverage Again
I wonder how many Trump voting Americans you’d say that to face to face. Actually, I think I know the answer.
Every last one of them…from behind armoured glass shields. 
If he wins the election, he’s home free, and rich as you like.
If he loses, justice will catch up with him.
It’s ridiculous that that’s his main motivator. He cares not one jot about the country. It’s all about preserving himself, and if that happens, enriching himself.
My feeling is that he has ideas of creating not just a dictatorship, but a Trump monarchy for generations to come.
He has already pronounced Baron Trump as a visionary…!! The kid is barely 18.
It is just bullshit rhetoric, of which he never gets tired of spouting.
I hope he eventually runs out words, if not sooner, then definitely on the day Jack Smith locks him away
Hmm…
Will Trump try to post birth abortion her for talking against him? 