US Election 2024

“Directionally correct” is the new “take him seriously but not literally”

Sure, ok. They are not actually eating cats and dogs, but they are still causing havoc to our community with disease.

Sure, ok, communicable disease hasnt actually gone up, but there is a lot of angst in the community about the presence of so many illegals

Sure, ok, they arent technically “illegal”…

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We’ve got FEMA having to stop helping communities thanks to Trump. All the workers are back in Charlotte because of threats to their safety. Their morale is very low thanks to him too. Really hard to go all in helping only to get this prize shitbag lying and saying this sort of stuff. Even though GOP leaders in the state are very loud in their thanks and gratitude,MAGA are believing this bs. Yet people are dying. I live close to NC border and there’s still no power in places, no water. Remote places where people are cut off and can’t get out unless they are helped. We were getting 2 or 3 Chinooks coming over daily and about 10 or so regular helicopters but none today.

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How do people even defend this behaviour? It’s completely psychotic…

I’ll never get the kind of mind that so blindly falls into a cult. How can anyone ignore every obviously odious thing he does?

In normal cults there’s at least some sense of community that initially sucks lonely/vulnerable people in. This man can’t even feign basic human empathy.
It wouldn’t be the first time a movement was driven by nothing but hate I guess.

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Hate is far more powerful than empathy.

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As someone who lives here, I can attest that Trump has massively changed the game of politics. It is now more polarized and violent than I’ve known at any point since I have been here. He has crossed and trampled boundaries and norms, and has laid a lot of groundwork to establish an authoritarian state, should he gain power again. It is awful.

The people who have most to lose are pawns in his hand. They are mostly poor, generally uneducated, and heavily armed. He doesn’t give a shit about them, apart from to the degree they will be useful to him in putting him back on his throne.

If you are a Trump supporter (albeit in name only, because you can’t vote for him and don’t live here) you should show your working. You are allowed to draw your own conclusions, but please show your working.

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[quote=“RedOverTheWater, post:4799, topic:4044”]
You are allowed to draw your own conclusions [/quote]

They’re more likely to be drawing with crayons.

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Should only be allowed to draw with crayons…

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Ignore how dumb the “laptop” story is in general, but when exactly did Biden become president?

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This is likely a sign the Harris team dont like what they see in their internal polling

https://x.com/JacquiHeinrich/status/1845869776347783230

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If there is any doubt that the USis headed for a dictatorship under Trump his recent burbling should remove any doubt.
Particularly taken with the idea of using the military against anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
Most know he is a headbanger by now, surely,but he keeps right on doing it.Anyway,we will know in 3 weeks whether we wind up with him and Putin frolicking together in the approaching winter.

Although to be fair, it could also be viewed as just part of her everything, everywhere, all at once approach to closing out the campaign (except for the NYT, because fuck you, NYT)

Call Her Daddy, Smokeroom, All the Smoke, Stern, Univision townhall, and 60 Minutes all individually give off a different message of who she is trying to reach so maybe there is a more positive message to take from her being willing to go on Fox rather than viewing it as a desperate attempt. Keep in mind a lot of Fox viewers will have heard the message that she has bombed all her appearances, and her team are hiding her from the press because she cannot cope. How low is the bar for her to be able to blow up that narrative for a % of regular fox viewers?

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I think it is all of the above. Probably not thrilled by how close it looks. Then also there is the desire to get her message out.

Most Fox News viewers will see her as the devil incarnate, but the few who might yet be swayed, because they really don’t care for Trump, just might be given something to consider.

At the least she will come across as professional, with policies and ideas for a better America, and she will hopefully be relatable too. Going on there in person will afford the opportunity to get her message across and not be misrepresented.

Bret Baier is one of the very few reasonable Fox News people, a proper journalist rather than an opinion based shock jock.

I’m sure she will get a tough ride, but it will hopefully be fair too.

Credit to Harris for getting in there.

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Another day, another weird episode…

While there is a lot of money to be made around politics, running campaigns is not usually a directly lucrative gig. They are more either a reputational loss leader, the sort of thing where you expect the experience of having done it will see you get paid down the road for your expertise, or done largely for free by already established people whose power comes from their side winning elections

Jen O Malley Dillion, the head of the Harris campaign, is reportedly on 13k a month. A decent salary, but there are nurses that would make more on a 6 month contract gig like this. Suzy Wiles, a long time big player in Florida republican politics and one of Trump’s co chairs, is reportedly working for free.

Reports are out today that Trump’s second co chair, Chris LaCivita, has somehow worked a deal for himself that has seen him be compensated for $19m since he came onto the campaign in 2022

I guess that is just more of Trump’s famed business savvy that allowed that to happen. Bring on the government efficiency

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I fear it is a doubling down on the usual Democratic mistake of trying to reach unreachable Republican voters, and failing to activate their base sufficiently to deliver it to the polls. Writ large, I think the Democratic campaign has been unsuccessful in resisting Trump’s attempts to set the narrative around immigration and affordability, and Harris in particular has seemed reluctant to set out some real differentiation from Biden. While the race is still obviously very close, the campaign has largely been fought on grounds of the Republicans’ choosing, usually not a good thing.

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In a primary where the presumptive candidate was subject to such a big protest vote, and the trickle of high profile Republicans giving voters permission to vote for the other side is turning into a stream, it would be negligent to not put time into convince those people. And we are now seeming ample polling that there is a sizeable winnable group for her this time around.

I would be concerned if that was happening at the expense of a base turn out strategy, or if meaningful concessions were being given to win that vote, but I don’t think there is anything to reasonably point to to argue that.

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Improvisational Departure - like he’s Miles Davis or some shit

He stood on stage and swayed aimlessly for 20 minutes playing songs as weird as “Time to say goodbye” stopping only to chide his DJ for playing the wrong version of Ave Maria

It’s seemingly difficult to remember for many that the supposedly seminal issue for this election was the mental competency of one of the candidates.

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https://x.com/harris_wins/status/1846185354002682163

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Jake Tapper: what do you make of Trump saying he will use the military to arrest lunatic leftists, like Adam Schiff?

Glenn Youngkin: illegal immigrants should be arrested (to his credit he didn’t mention dogs cats or geese).

Tapper: I agree, but what about Schiff?

Youngkin: people are misinterpreting and taking Trump out of context.

Tapper: He named Schiff.

Youngkin: try to be more balanced in your presentation.

We have gone from you hear what you hear to you hear what you are told to hear.

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Hasn’t that always been the case?

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