her voice sounds like that whiny millennial karen-in-training that makes me want to tear my ears off.
when I heard that United had 20 leagues, I thought it was titles not table position… 
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“it’s the hope that kills you”
I always thought @Hope.in.your.heart was a bit dodgy, but never had him down as being able to kill people. 
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I love the idea that the Man U supporters trust still believes the Glazers are somehow accountable to them, against all evidence to the contrary.
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Peaches likes weird things. What can we say ?
The Glazers see it as their asset - and it is, and the purpose is to make them as much money as possible. Given that objective, they are doing very well.
They had the means to buy the club, then the savvy to load all the debt back onto the club, so that it pays for itself. It is crooked and wrong, but they exploited the rules that do not prohibit such an ownership model.
They stuck a finance man at the helm to continue to milk it dry, and along the way they have used various stock mechanisms and dividends to enjoy a steady, and lucrative, supply of revenue that they have been taking out of the club.
They know it is a massive global name, so if and when they choose to sell they will maximize their profit, likely to the tune of several billion.
The only question that exists is in the timing. It is not in their interest to let it fall too far, so the money stops rolling in. At the same time, they don’t have the ability or desire, like FSG, to run a proper operation.
If the fans make it sufficiently unpleasant for them they will sell up. But that will be tough to do while they live in their FL mansions and not really giving a shit about Man Utd or the fans. Still, money talks, and once the revenue starts to get hit enough, it will come to a head and they will sell up.
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It’s only an issue when results are shit, I would assume those who had real anger at the leverage buyout may have switched clubs by now.
I wonder though if they are not ultimately screwing themselves though by sinking the value of the asset. They bought a sporting behemoth that was winning the biggest trophies with facilities considered among the best in the world. If they were to decide to cash out they would absolutely take a hit on the valuation based on the state of the facilities and their reduced sporting status. They’ve taken a LOT of money out and the overall increase in money in the game means they’re surely worth a lot more than they were then so they’d make a big profit in absolute terms, but it still seems like it would be a lot less than had they ran it with even a modicum of responsibility for anything other than their short term dividends.
Haha, fuck…I just did a quick google search and estimates put Utd’s current market valuation at $4.6 billion and they bought it for about $1.4b (800 million quid in summer 2005 at an approx 1.8 exchange rate). So even if they have left a ton of potential money on the table in absolute terms by running it poorly they’d still be killing it if they sold now.
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Cristiano Ronaldo has been arguing against Erik ten Hag’s high pressing methods in training, and eating alone in the Man Utd canteen
[The Athletic]
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I think they have already covered the initial investment and then some, through stock exchange IPO, selling of what I call MU mickey mouse shares (from said IPO), dividends, salary?, and all this before even selling any of their currently listed real shares. This cow has fat teats that are nowhere near dried up. They could sell for 4-5B without spending a cent on new facilities (grounds, stadium, training), which desperately need investment.
Its death by 1000 cuts and hopefully we have only witnessed 100.
I assume the 4-5B valuation takes debts into account, and they own about 90%? So quite a profit.
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Where’s the sport in that?
If manu fans think this is rock bottom, wait till they get relegated and struggle in championship.
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We could do an hour podcast - 45mins of lovely chat, and then we do politics for the last 15 and fucking fly at each other!
They spent about 270M of their own money and saddled the rest of the debt to the club for the takeover. They’ve more than recouped whatever they’ve invested in the club
They might be sinking themselves.
I think soon enough they will sell, or set about trying to fix the underlying issues.
its a bit disrepctful towards Brentford that statement! 
Relegation six-pointer next week at Old Trafford. We might be a point behind them for all of their troubles with Ten Haag.
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I think they will turn up sadly and then go back to being shit again the week after.
A lot of our hope depends on if anyone else gets a knock, we’ve lost one stupidly for three games.
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