Who would you buy? (Part 2)

Just bought a bottle of Hendricks Gin. Smooth stuff. Ready for a nice g&t tomorrow when Mrs ROTW gets back from work travel.

Can’t think why that came to mind.

Likewise.

Show him the love. We want you to come and be the main guy in the middle for us. This season was a mess but we are now committed and you´re going to be the centre piece of our next title winning side.

He´d jump at the chance.

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Unless we bring back Morton, dont sell Jones and promote some kids to be squad filler and just accept we won´t have really good backup options.

Put all the funds into improving the first team.

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Let’s just get the fastest player ever in the Bundesliga, put him back into Ekitike’s shadow and hope for the best

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Ok, two centre-backs.

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and a new manager!

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With the resources that are available to Liverpool football club, how come all these German and French and Dutch sides can pick up these players who are clearly on their way up yet we seem to have no clue about it?

Hell, even mid table clubs in the Premier League seem to do a great job.

And we’ve had this discussion before here about us needing players who are more the finished article.

But it seems to me that players arriving at clubs like Bournemouth and Brighton for example recently are closer to being that finished article than used to be the case.

So maybe we need to start delving into these markets earlier than we used to because clearly we’re not gonna be able to keep up paying the prices there are being asked.

yes.

manager and not head coach. and a new DoF. It seems clear in the Premier League the whole balance of power between manager and director of football has shifted towards the manager of late.

And we have experienced in real time the problems that can happen with a head coach/DoF demarkation of responsibilities.

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Easy, you don’t want to block Jacquet’s and Leoni’s pathway to the team, do you?

no, we want to expose two young and inexperienced centre backs to the harsh reality of the Premier League, in a team which will cough up chances like confetti at a celebration. And permanently damage their their confidence before they’ve even had a chance to establish themselves.

I think the usual answer is these clubs just had more incentives to take risks with unknown potential compared to big English clubs where success is expected almost immediately so they go for the short cuts and buy big and ready. We all know it’s not always true but unfortunately, fans usually don’t react well if summer transfers consist of 10 6mil youth potential compared to a 60mil first team excitimg, sky’s the limit player.

One player that suddenly got reminded of is Leao. He was like often in the radar of big clubs a couple of seasons ago but surprised he is still in Milan. Don’t think he is the kind of player for us but anyone has a more in-depth look at him just for interest.

I get that and that dismiss to be the case. But things seem to have shifted. Rayan has been at Bournemouth since this January and Kroupi since last January. Look at the difference they are already making.

I’m saying we seem to have become lazy with scouting. And I get eh while big club pressure thing.

Use the kids from the bench to protect them but they’d be huge in terms of squad depth and overall quality.

We do look like we’re lately signing some notable 15-16 year olds.

But that’s too far off. Their potential many never be realised at PL level.

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We’ll need 5 CBs to win the quadruple.

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Well, here’s a few things:

  • None of them had any PL experience. In particular, Leoni comes from Series A (well, the real farmers’ league, not Ligue 1 which at least is good at creating talents) and barely had any senior football experience in general - I mean, Italy barely created any talents of worth since 2020. Jacquet is at least already a senior footballer at Rennes.
  • We never had any success with Italian players even back then when Series A still produced Italian talents.
  • Both just returned from horrible injuries that took 6-12 months to recover from.
  • Gomez is permanently injured and is more often played as RB, and VVD is old. You cannot gamble with just 3 CBs.
  • We still have the Quansah buy-back deal, and he has become a senior CB after last season - and is definitely one of the better performers in Bundesliga last season.
  • While using youth players is good, CB position is the last place to deploy them. Note that none of United’s fabled Class of 92 were CBs.
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IMO buying Archie Gray is mandatory because he is a HG player that can cover 3 positions at once (well, very suitable to Slot’s small squad mentality).

We also need proper attacking full-backs like Livramento or Lewis Hall. There are better names like Mendes, Hakimi, TAA (though we really should monitor him), Timber but they are not for sales for different reasons.

So you want us to buy young and upcoming players but then not play them? How exactly does that help anything?

Yeah, remember the shit that was flying when we bought that no hope left back from Hull for a pittance

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Kerkez logged 2 goals and 1 assist for Liverpool across 34 appearances, while Hall scored 1 goal and provided 1 assist for Newcastle United in 30. Livramento 0 goals and 1 assist in 17 games

Proper attacking talent :grin:

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That requires a manager with a strong ability to read and assess a player’s skills and suitability even before that player becomes a hot prospect. Klopp was a master, but I don’t think Slot can do that.