Who would you buy?

Allegedly, he’s been in talks with Atletico Madrid for a while. He’d be a nice option to have, though, a left back capable of playing as a midfielder, only on the left flank.

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Guerreiro throughout his Dortmund career was better than what Robbo offered in the last two years - yes I said it :see_no_evil:

Actually believe that Real and City will try to sign him but if not the Italian Free Agent hyenas will be all over him.

Returning to this, turns out Baptiste has been diagnosed with a rare nerve condition called Guillem-Barre which made it practically impossible to even train. He was falling asleep at training, missing meetings etc while also not being able to train properly. He described his body not responding to him properly when playing and feeling like “running in sand”.

It was in the middle of this that Moyes spoke out and criticised his conduct while also saying "We had really big hopes for him a couple of years ago but he’s had difficulties to be honest.”

After that West Ham owner David Sullivan pushed for Baptiste to see his own doctor and Baptiste says he was thankful to Sullivan for “actually believing me that there was something wrong in the first place”. Thanks to that he has now got the right help and is on a path to managing his illness and returning to football.

It won’t be for West Ham though. West Ham decided not to renew his contract. Don’t think the story is a good look for Moyes - publically attacking a nineteen year old, writing him off as a prospect and not believing him when he was being told by the player that he felt there was something wrong physically. Reading between the lines looks like Baptiste wasn’t interested in playing for Moyes after that either and parting ways is probably good for him.

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This is what Markus Babbel had wasn’t it. Kept him out for a long time and I don’t think he was ever able to get back to what he was for us at his peak. Seem to remember him looking very ill at the time. Lost a lot of weight and muscle mass.

Just looked him up and he’s looking far healthier now.

Some excellent man management from Moyes there.

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I think thats the same condition Markus Babbel had when he left LFC or maybe ended his career here.

Yeah not a good look for Moyes,criticising a youngster with a serious health condition.

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One of our German players had this. Played under Houllier (can’t remember his name). Horrible disease

Edit: Markus Babbel!

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I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but Markus Babbel also had this condition.

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i remember him, didnt he get struck down with an illness during his career?

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Who? What illness was that?

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Thanks everyone, Ryan Babel had it too - understood!

Babbel was a real coup when we got him, I was quite excited to have a real quality defender in the team.

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Not a good look for Moyes. There’s a time and place to put your foot down, and top level management demands it.

This was not that.

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Big detour for this thread, but this comes from the exact same dinosaur attitude that saw Gerrard demean Sturridge.

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He was mustard that first season. Absolutely top class.

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Then that would also hold true for those that demean Ox and Naby.

In fairness , Moyes had no way of knowing how serious the condition was.

Of course he did. The club have doctors and can refer to specialists and/or hospital.

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He was Mustard. love that phrase. Great examples of signings I loved but did not work out as special - Babbel, Kewell, Ziege….

This is why I want the Thuram from Nice if the latest rumors are to be believed.

Thuram is only 22, 6’3 181 lbs. He offers the physicality to boss the midfield, freeing up Mac Allister for an attacking role. But Thuram is no slouch himself offensively, he’s quite good at carrying the ball forward progressively and taking on defenders.

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I wonder if it might be three midfielders incoming: Kone, Thuram, MacAllister?

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