This reminds me of how we normally play for some reason? Usually with Alexander-Arnold pushed up and Robertson deeper, but switching it up every now and then…
In the last two seasons or so, it’s Robbo who pused up more positionally. Trent helping more to build up forming like a 3 from the back, his passing range allowing him to “get” to all parts of the pitch and Robbo (being the less talented player) relying his game more on runs and simplicity.
But there are different examples and it can also differ between phases of the game.
I remember us against PSG at home. Robbo stayed more at the back to keep an eye on Mbappe, didn’t really go forward as much that night. We were all worried about Neymar vs Trent, but Trent pushed up so much and the protection around/behind him was spot on.
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Haha it’s a proper gut punch when you remember pretty much the same team kept the likes of Neymar and Mbappe quiet… now being schooled by Brighton and Brentford…
Sounds like Bajectic will play though on that also Milner.
How can you watch Fabinho, Salah, Matip (and the whole fucking team in the last game) and single out Trent? Ridiculous how he gets scapegoated
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Just please show up…and PLAY…PLAY .
Interesting article on the BBC this morning. Juergen seems to be hinting at big changes needed or he will?….might explain this shit show
I don’t think he necessarily means the players. Could be many things, the investor/owner situation, the director, part of the medical department, a few in/out players of course.
I actually never thought lately that Klopp has had enough. He just agreed to stay longer. Firmly believe he’s motivated to leave us in a better position than now.
How am I singling out Trent by pulling up him and Henderson?
Trent didn’t just look out of form. He looks like he didn’t give a shit. That clip up thread of him just standing on the edge of the box as Brighton poured forward…,
Yep.
Difference between Trent and the others is his laziness and attitude to his defensive duties. It STINKS.
Even for the captain of the club, Hendo’s attitude lately looks like he’s fed up of being here.
And by the way, on Trent. Generational player. Outrageous ability on the ball. Would love him here for many, many years.
But, like a lot of young lads, he has slipped into thinking he has made it and his attitude is perhaps not what it should be.
Critically this is not a one off either. So many of our goals this season have been scored with him just standing and watching from a position that if he reacted promptly and then made an effort could have changed things. Most far more consequential than this one (see the Sancho goal from earlier in the season).
I got slaughtered on his thread some time ago for saying something similar. Unless he has been granted a free role then some of his strolling around comes over as either rank indiscipline or arrogance
I would rather have a competent defensive right back than the current version of Trent.
Trent has been pushed to the limit - physically, mentally, tactically. He’s showing real signs of fatigue and indecisiveness.
He still created our only two decent chances against Brighton though. He needs to be given more license to hurt the opposition. This current system asks far too much of him.
The clips of him standing about are very poor but I refuse to believe he doesn’t give a shit, he has been hung out to dry by this setup.
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Do you think it’s this, or it’s just (a) his brain no longer reacting as it used to because of the accumulated fatigue, (b) just despair?
Not sure about the Sancho one but definitely harsh to say his attitude was subpar against Brighton considering he bailed us out a couple of times in the first half, and yet we somehow managed to concede twice before then anyway.
I’m clearly favouring the fatigue argument, in case it wasn’t obvious. Find it hard to believe that he’s in full complacency mode, especially considering how no one actually working with the club is suggesting that…
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When your body and mind are at odds with each other… sometimes the cogs upstairs turn very slowly until complete/enough rest has brought about a re-alignment of the two
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I’m fairly certain Jürgen has made several remarks along those lines, firstly about how tactically his role in our team is not quite what others would expect, as well as comments about how he made tactical adjustments to compensate for that, and quite simply, that he’s shown that he’s more than capable at doing the basic defensive role, albeit at the expense of the attacking side of things.
I don’t disagree with this but that would mean you are slower to react, not actually stop you reacting.
However I’m with ILLOK we need to move away from the new system which whilst I’m sure is very clever on paper has decimated an already stretched squad. It was a very bad decision to try and implement change over such a condensed pre-season in my opinion.
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I’m probably being a bit harsh on his attitude. There is probably a lot in what you and @ILLOK say.
He was our best player against Leicester (defensively too) and far from the worst player against Brentford and Wolves
This is just utter bullshit
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