Liverpool disrespected Newcastle and Isak by making an initial bid that broke the British transfer record.
Newcastle, of course, respected Isak by refusing to give him a pay rise to better reflect what they themselves think he’s worth.
Liverpool disrespected Newcastle and Isak by making an initial bid that broke the British transfer record.
Newcastle, of course, respected Isak by refusing to give him a pay rise to better reflect what they themselves think he’s worth.
Oh, yes. There are many nuances and Newcastle have done a terrible job and more. But it doesn’t remove the villain factor from Isak for me. Certainly, Newcastle is in their rights to fuck up and do a botch job in the window. He should at the very least have handed in a transfer request and not doing so is just too maliciously shady for me.
No, and certainly not the High Court. They’ll tell Newcastle that they need to pursue other avenues specifically provided for resolving these disputes.
There are arbitration clauses in PL rules as well as the proceses set down by FIFA.
In a way yes it’s about money.
Newcastle despite their new owners, aren’t one of the top clubs in the Prem that can compete for everything or offer the best wages. Even Manchester City, with less strict rules when they were bought out, took years to be rise their status up to be a top draw for players and had a few disagreements with players like Tevez as well.
Also Newcastle aren’t in a position to spent there way to the top as fast as they might like, which means Isak would be sacrificing challenging for trophies to stay at Newcastle. He could have gone down as a Newcastle legend but Newcastle aren’t going to be challenging for the prem or champions league in his prime years as a player. Personal ambition might matter here too.
In another way no.
If they’d offered him a big contract on that sort of wages a year ago. He’d probably be happy still but now? According to Isak, Newcastle have broken promises and been smearing him in the media. This feels like the bridge might have been burnt enough that there is no coming back. I think he’d refuse to sign a new contract even if it offered him massive wages at this point.
It’s all about money. Only fans are the ones invested in the club.
For the club owners as well as the players concerned, it’s about the money.
Don’t want to take the United example, but why do players join a deadbeat club like United anyway ? The money.
There is also ambition. Otherwise all the best players would be in Saudi by now.
Newcastle, of course, respected Isak by refusing to give him a pay rise to better reflect what they themselves think he’s worth.
Putting it again in the context of things most of us can relate to, they made a promise to an employee reflective of how much they said they valued them, but then renegged on it. When the employee then ultimately put in their notice after deciding they didnt want to work for people like that anymore then only then did the right thing, but in a way that has already demonstrated they dont really give a fuck. And the textbook advice in situations like this is to not accept the counter offer…the things you didnt like about your current employer wont change just because they are now paying you more.
There is also ambition. Otherwise all the best players would be in Saudi by now.
Because they know that they’ll get a much better pay package in those leagues once they’ve proved themselves in the main leagues.
He should at the very least have handed in a transfer request and not doing so is just too maliciously shady for me.
I dont see why people keep saying this. It’s pretty clear from his and his agents words and actions they want out, that is pretty much the same as a formal transfer request. Putting it on fancy paper for the club isnt going to change anything - if it would, i’m pretty sure it would have been done.
The club dont have to accept a transfer request regardless of how it is presented to the club. And their response last night is pretty much doing that.
It changes things financially from what I understand, but I am open to being corrected here by those who know legalese.
If it didn’t, then I question why it exists at all.
In any case, I find Isak’s behaviour completely deplorable. If it was our player, I am pretty damn certain many people would write different things instead of defensive pitches.
If it didn’t, then I question why it exists at all.
It’s an anachronism. The same as “we havent even put in a bid yet” complaints. This just isnt the dynamics of how transfers are managed these days.
We could have done the same thing with Diaz. He didn’t want to sign what we were offering, the same as Isak. Bayern made an offer way below what we wanted, we said no, Diaz made it clear he wanted out, we compromised with Bayern and he moved.
All that could have happened with Isak too, but Newcastle insisted on their magic 150m figure and so relations with Isak broke down. If we’d insisted on the 100m that we valued Diaz at, we’d have a sulky player on our hands too.
All that could have happened with Isak too, but Newcastle insisted on their magic 150m figure and so relations with Isak broke down. If we’d insisted on the 100m that we valued Diaz at, we’d have a sulky player on our hands too.
Pretty much spot on
Only fans are the ones invested in the club.
OnlyFans have invested as well as PIF? That’s an unexpected combination! ![]()
I did like how half you quoted me. I have concerns but I do understand the player however he could put a formal request in as I know it.
I did like how half you quoted me. I have concerns but I do understand the player however he could put a formal request in as I know it.
The point is if the company can change their promises in between. That leaves a lot of disgruntled employees. Especially those who’ve signed on for the promise of stock options.
Their window is pretty much the opposite of ours.
We’re the Homer Simpson to their Frank Grimes.
We could have done the same thing with Diaz. He didn’t want to sign what we were offering, the same as Isak. Bayern made an offer way below what we wanted, we said no, Diaz made it clear he wanted out, we compromised with Bayern and he moved.
All that could have happened with Isak too, but Newcastle insisted on their magic 150m figure and so relations with Isak broke down. If we’d insisted on the 100m that we valued Diaz at, we’d have a sulky player on our hands too.
We were open to listening to offers for Diaz though because we already knew we were not going to extend his contract at a level he was looking for and so were 1) already planning for a post-Diaz era, and 2) willing to accelerate that if an offer made it worth our while.
Newcastle have found themselves in the position of not wanting to pay a guy what they promised they would while not staying on the trajectory in terms of competitiveness and club growth they promised him when he signed, and then thinking they could tell him to deal with it because he was under contract. And to a degree they can do that, but then cannot do it without huge and reasonable blow back, And of course the other factor is the interruption of their long term planning from the multiple rounds of executive churn that made the prospect of thing proactively planning for how to deal with want away stars and doing so in a win-win way difficult to do.
Thing is - despite our signings we are still woefully short.
We need to forget Isak and go get someone else.
We cannot lose 3 forwards and replace them with one - then hope a 17 year old can help us out.
Chiesa still isnt fancied and could he do 10 games on the bounce if needed? Doubt it.