He doesn’t like how winning trophies makes him feel and wants to get back to what he knows best?
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Bayern Space is talking nonsense
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Mods please ban this sacrilege. Bayern Space’s stellar reputation cannot be impuned.
If Isak unilaterally terminates before the end of the transfer window then we’d still be able to register him after it closes, but a High Court action could delay it by a few days, maybe a couple of weeks at most.
Liverpool don’t need to do anything. They can just focus on Guehi and a versatile forward option 23 years old or younger.
They can pick up whatever remains in the rubble after Isak and Newcastle destroy each other.
Didn’t they slap 60m on him about 4 months ago?
Thats not even close, and here is another problem, other clubs will look at the way they are behaving and pretending they are somewhat different.
And looking at it this way. Let’s get the pen and paper calculations because it’s partly about the money.
120k per week * 48 * 3 is still less than Isak terminating his contract , doing the necessary 30m payout and getting a salary in excess of 250k per week at his new club.
Newcastle have no more cards to play.
I don’t like the way Isak has gone about with this. And a part of me is still concerned if he repeats the same with us (if he does join us).
But I do hope, that if he decides to join us. Our clauses are iron clad.
Guehi, Fofana, and we are covered moving into the season. We still want Isak, but the two players mentioned would at least give us more of the depth we still need.
Let Isak unilaterally terminate if Newcastle won’t negotiate, then make our move. It will be messy, and legal wrangling will ensue, but I don’t see how the compensation would be more than what we are willing to pay in a transfer fee. Therefore it seems low risk to us.
Obviously there will be long term ramifications if Isak takes this course of action, and it could have a bigger effect on transfers than Bosman.
As long as our bases are covered. It should be fine.
Just don’t want to think of the long term ramifications of this though. There’s nothing stopping clubs like real Madrid from enticing whatever players they want to do exactly this.
I am incredibly uncomfortable with this saga, having read both sides arguments now for weeks. I almost hope we lose interest in Isak.
I hope we don’t need him or we can find someone else to a similar price.
I am rather surprised that everyone here seems to be comfortable with Isak despite Newcastles many awful errors. He is breaking his contract and is disloyal. Normally regarded as morally awful, but not when he is coming here it seems everyone is taking his side and coming forth with the “but Van Dijk” argument. All of it seems very selective in terms of ethics. I refuse to have selective ethics just because of Liverpool.
Isak has not handed in a transfer request (van dijk did) so he can skim some more money, ergo his behviour is beneth contempt. For me anyway. Really hope he doesn’t show up here.
Seems like a genuinly awful person. A potential contamination for a player group. But even if he isn’t. What he has done and is doing, is so bad that I will for one certainly not support him in the beginning (but if he gets here, I suppose I will kind of have to, despite loathing it.)
I’d rather the unilateral termination was not breached, as there will be unforeseen consequences. As one of the giants of the game we will be well placed to protect our interests, but it will make the game a bit more vicious.
If the way transfers are conducted ends up being changed by the Isak case, I see salaries for the top players going higher and higher, and loyalty, and tenure, decreasing. I also see scope for more lawyers, more arguing, and more subjectivity around what proper compensation should entail.
In short, I’d rather this wasn’t breached, and hopefully Newcastle will see sense and sell a want away player for a good fee, my best guess is 130M pounds.
Do think Newcastle low balled him on the contract.
But either way , it’s not a good show for Isak too.
We exactly don’t know what’s the discussions had behind the scenes which led Isak to make this decision.
Either way , if Isak joins us , I’ll be cheering his goals as those are Liverpool goals. But doesn’t paint him in good light. If there’s someone else that we can get , maybe Alvarez, i would rather we get him in.
Yes, but I don’t like this. It’s not right what he is doing. It’s disgusting, he is under contract. Newcastle means less to me, but It’s known that they have handled this window truly awfully, but I care less about that. Unlike Isak, they are technically in the right anyway. But my focus is Isak and he seems beyond awful.
Funny thing about Isak is that he was seen as a model professional till this saga. Seemed genuinely happy to be in Newcastle , was firing in the goals too.
110m and that would be my take it or leave it offer if I was Hughes. And that offer has probably a 5 day period.
No more fucking around.
Why so confident on the friendly timeline?
Think the only way Isak joins us is if a transfer fee is involved.
His latest stunt probably pulled the transfer fee down more.
No club would want to take a gamble on such a player.
While tapping up does happen , I hope we covered our bases good w.r.t this one.
Because the High Court would rule against Newcastle pretty quickly. Newcastle would have to pursue other options that wouldn’t involve injunctive relief.
Continuing to what Kopstar says. There’s no legal grounds anymore. Newcastle doesn’t have any cards.
