And both sides are far too radicalized right now ( more so the Zionists) for that to even be feasible. Israel wants to drive the palestinians out. No country wants to accept the palestinians and hence are complicit in Israel’s crimes.
As I’ve already noted, but I haven’t heard any of the Palestinian leaders ever mention they would accept integration into a greater Israel. Non-starter for them politically, at least until now.
I was talking about the Israelis.
I understand that.
The Israeli’s ideally would love Jordan to take in those refugees in the west bank. That i believe is their end game. They do have a relatively stable working relationship with the Jordan govt.
It’s another xenophobic fantasy, though. Israel is already 21% Arab. That percentage is up to 25% if one includes Christians and other non-Jewish folks.
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The Obama coms team tells a story of them getting privately torn apart by their Israeli colleagues over a totally unremarkable speech Barry about the holocaust during his second term. Something had changed within Israeli domestic politics even by then that required them to play down the importance of the holocausts in the existence of Israel as it undercut their historical claim to the land. That is a perspective incompatible with a 2 state solution and over the years since we’ve seen this perspective gain ground to the point it now dominates their government. The thing is, that has also seemingly come in conjunction with not wanting the Palestinians to even have their own state either.
It was … until the xenophobes actually became the government. There are ministers now who have openly stated that they want nothing less than expulsion. The policy now is to make life so unbearable for Palestinians that they leave of their own volition.
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There is the small matter of Black September. An international border is the foundation of that stable working relationship.
I think they are beginning to find the democracy thing a bit inconvenient. Very fraught politics at the moment.
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What that map is showing was British Madatory Palestine which only really existed between 1920 and 1948.
Partition was the preferred option at the time which had led to unresolved problems in Ireland, India, Germany, Korea etc etc.
Any solution will have to respect human rights and the rule of law but there are far too many external parties who are determined that will never happen in the Middle East.
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Israel for certain, (their society is now cemented in rather extreme blood and soil nationalism since the rise of Netanyahu so many years ago, now there is no room for pragmatism or such concessions in Israel anymore) ,but also all the religious factions amongsts the Palestinians and probably a majority of the nationalists. Their people are ruled by hardliners, not intellectuals and free thinkers. I agree it is a very increasing number though, but I think, a powerless group.
The partition of India was fucked up. Not the idea of partition per se , the way it was done which led to bloodshed and the various unresolved issues.
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True. But treaties can be amended. With the amount of investment done by Israel in Jordan and the amount of trade as well.
Jordan is a landlocked country with little resources. When push comes to shove (with the tacit approval of the Saudis) , that’s what is going to happen
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An example that worked, I would say, was the breakup of Czechoslovakia. I think the key there was that there was mutual consent and an acceptance that it was an artificial entity.
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They could just all trot off to Rwanda!
Via Dover?
India’s partition was in someway inevitable. The cluster fuck which followed later could have been avoided though
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Pure irony indeed. But their inhumane behaviour towards the original occupants of this land shows how deeply unsecure they must feel about their theories, which hold in fact no serious grounding in historic reality.
I’ve always thought that the idea of a partition was wrong in the first place. Hindsight shows now that it actually empowered the worst and most extremist forces on both sides. But on the other hand, the perspective for Palestinians to live as eternal second zone citizens must not have been very appealing at the time, hence them listening to Arafat…
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Millions has been spent trying to find archaeological evidence of Exodus. Guess what’s been found.
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