And you don’t have to be antisemitic, either.
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Or Muslim, or a Hamas supporter, or radical.
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The Eliases I know are Jewish. So, is this a case of a Jew violently supporting the Palestinian cause by killing Jews?
I’m just asking, I’ve no idea, but the whole case seems fishy as hell to me.
It is a common hispanic name
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Boris Becker’s son is called Elias.
I’ve met quite a few people with that name in Germany who weren’t Jewish.
Fair enough, my bad. It’s still a very fishy affair nevertheless, but we’ll not learn much more about this I guess.
I sent you literally the video showing you the perpetrator yesterday and I also wrote his name and told you that he was an American socialist. I don’t get this.
In general, I want to say this:
All of this is exasperating, Information is readily available. But I see incredibly stupid conspiracy theories instead.
There are literally thousands who cheer the attack, including a vast swathe of pro-hamas American on twitter (and very many who claim they are just pro Palestinian too). It is a fact. It is absolutely bat shit insane that when so many think this is a great idea, that the reflex then is “oh, false flag”. Beyond stupid and very hard to respect intellectually.
Just go on Social Media and see the hundreds who cheer this and the thousands who like those posts. It’s an Israeli soft target, literally swathes of people thinks it is ethically ok to hit them. The shooter is already being lionised by swathes of people. I shouldn’t have to tell people this.
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There is like tons of this, written by well educated people in the US. What do you think less educted people write ?
https://x.com/susanabulhawa/status/1925612464739119564
Here we justify.
And in this post “false flag”. She does not see the paradox of what she writes. Many such people don’t.
https://x.com/susanabulhawa/status/1925667636127338752
Internet is absolutely full of this. And people go False flag knee-jerk ? I cannot even fathom the mental gymnastics (well I can, but it is very disappointing for me to read) involved in thinking a false flag makes more sense than an unstable idiot who kills for the cause, given how many thousands of idiots believing in the cause, there actually are.
The idea that this is an “Act of Resistance” is everywhere on the internet.
I mean if you want your feel good fix and blame Israel for something a Palestine-sympathiser did, I’ll show you the way:
If I wanted to provoke terror attacks in Europe and US on Israeli as well as Jewish Soft Targets. If that was my goal, the current Israeli campaign in Gaza would be exactly the perfect catalyst to achieve such social destabilisation. In fact, I am personally surprised that there haven’t been more such lone wolf attacks where people decide to become Heroes of the Cause, given how many loons there are on both sides, who thinks this sort of thing is absolutely more than justified.
So yes, you can in fact blame Israel using logic instead of reaching for bizarre conspiracies that would be incredibly difficult and time consuming to pull off (like 9-11, it would require the knowledge and participation of a hell of a lot of people, many of whom would likely not think it is ok to target those 2 people and sound the alarm and/or botch the op).
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I’m guessing you’re including me in this, but just to be clear, I’m not even sure false flag is the right term to describe what I’m thinking.
To me it’s more like the perpetrator could well be a useful idiot goaded into this by Israeli intelligence, much like the way you describe in this quote, but with more direct involvement:
Lol, no. It’s such mental gymnastics. So silly and illogical compared the obvious.
I am off. I cannot stand this. When there is an obvious link where thousands of people like to see this happen, people go for Mossad. I cannot even. It is too much.
Have a nice day. I’ try to not check in on answers here given this is the level and will wait for a new Breaking News item to overide this one so I don’t have to read such mental gymnastics and conspiracy theories from people I like.
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According to Der Spiegel, the perpetrator is a 39 year old woman. (They published the footage of the arrest.)
Local coverage here:
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There is a horrible event in Liverpool 
I hope it’s an elderly person, or even a drunk driver. Anything but political , please (that I hope that no one died ought to go without saying, but I mention it just in case the omission offends anyone) !!!
It hit the parade
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There are countless of videos and soon we are going to be flooded with more informative media stories. Liverpool Echo has very little apart from the obvious
I am not going to post videos of the car hitting, in case a Liverpool fan died.
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It said it’s on Water Street, which is just up from the Liver Building. Also one of the entrances for the underground. From the description, it doesn’t appear to have been at high speed, so hopefully just a minor accident.
Obviously, the last thing anyone wants.
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Yeah, it does not look “malicious” as in “i want to kill a lot of people”, I agree with that. Speed would have been far higher then. Maybe someone just was stressed and stepped on the accelerator or something. Or had a situation. Hard to say. Hopefully no one got seriously wounded. But the imediate media pictures made my heart sink. But now, it looks not as bad as I first feared (but ofc bad anyway).
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There will definitely have been a lot of drunk people in the area.
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If the driver was intoxicated, unfortunately he had just caused damages to plenty of people lives and also ruined his own life. But will be important to let the police finish their investigation on the cause
Blatten has been flattened:
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