You said Gerrard would have smashed him two minutes later. Gerrard would have done no such thing, because there wasn’t a two minutes later. After the Bradley injury it was pretty much time.
I’m sorry for pointing out the reality of the situation.
I can understand the desire for our players to stand up for each other more, but honestly the Martinelli incident is not a case study on this. There just wasn’t the time for anyone to put in a reducer on him.
@Mascot is correct, no one had the chance to equalize the moment, equally @Quicksand point kinda still stands but in a different context.
was in the same game where Gabriel picked Wirtz up from the floor in a quite unsportsmanlike manner…playing the hard man and basically telling Wirtz he has to do what the Alpha says…its because he can, and no one bats an eyelid, it should have been on.
Martinelli shouldnt need to be ‘laid out’ because he shouldnt have had the green light to act the cunt…
you cant go around rising to the bait and getting red cards and lengthy bans… but you can set boundaries
Fair enough.
Next time we meet them.
Though I won’t hold my breath to be honest.
Next time we meet them lets get a red card for a leveller that the referee will be obviously looking for to teach them a lesson.
I’d rather we just play them with 11 men and beat them, personally.
You can still get a cheeky tackle in.
Yeah
In an ideal world.
But as @Redbj has pointed out the rot had set in with Gabriel and Wirtz in that match, and we did nothing. Hence the bravery of Martinelli.
If you keep turning the other cheek you will get punched in it.
is correct @Quicksand
theres a massive difference between a gutless Roy Keane style leveler on Haaland and a Roy Keane vs Patrick Viera style showdown.
i think thats more the angle of the debate.
again, as Gabriel was dragging Wirtz up off the deck, it should have been on. Given the player, and what Arsenal do, the sheer audacity should have been challenged
does Martinelli still act the cunt? maybe…but not with impunity
The player I would use an example is Milly, he had nous and was overall loved and respected by refs and feared by his opponents and would have remembered what Martinelli had done and got him back in a fashion that would have earned him a yellow card.
Never saw anyone mess with Milly and his granite chin.
The only other who may get away with it and one the opposition don’t mess with, is Virg.
Why I mention these 2 and their standing, is that if they were ever fouled or kicked, you never saw them roll around like fannies, they just get up and get on with it!
The only others would be Robbo, gone, or Connor himself
I’d prefer to smash Arsenal 3 nil,
then in the final 10 mins to start smashing into the Arsenal players,
and to cap it all off,
Dom to smash the ball out of play towards the poor mans Pep’s head,
would that keep everyone happy?
Lads,
we don’t support a pub team. So this argument of preferring to beat Arsenal isn’t in the discussion. Obviously that’s what we all want.
That said, we do need to protect our own, develop a steeliness and combat dickheads like Gabrielle and punish fuckwits like Martinelli.
@Redbj and @Sportbilly1966 are correct.
Milner was a modern day hard nut, no one messed with him. Robbo to an extent, and yes maybe Conor in the future.
I yearn for a Souness or Jimmy Case, but I also understand the modern game has no place for them, though both would have adapted in my view.
The counter argument isn’t “let the football do the talking”…then you become Arsenal under Wenger, where the Stokes and Burnleys smash you.
No, there’s room for being a team that wins, and a team that stands up for itself
Anyway
Sooner the better Conor Bradley is fit and ready to continue what will be a great Liverpool career.
Yep no hands no head just a body check.
Milner would have said something in a physical way imo.