Fine.
I’ll chin Hannity.
But I still insist some faces just need a good punch. Tucker’s is definitely one of 'em.
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He is intelligent and dangerous. He isn’t dumb, he knows what he is doing. He is just ultra cynical.
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My ears are burning…
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Less slappin’ more puttin’ a cap in 'im.
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No, it was shit before the injuries, or have you blanked out the first 6 games?
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I prefer to say out of form.
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It is very unfortunate. The rift between rural and urban areas in the US is very vast. It is vast here in Norway too, but to their credit, our Agrarian Party, also a bit populist and quite national romantic, does not in any way or form use dehumanizing anti immigrant rhetoric, and focuses on purely economic rural issues and the rights of farmers and hunters. Their main struggle is against decentralisation and the EU. It is a centrist party. We are lucky that our agrarian party does not deal with dark nationalism. But in other countries, agrarian interests combined with populism, have often taken a dark nationalist turn. You see it elsewhere as well, the US is just very visible.
Our right wing populist party, the Progressive Party, is our anti immigrant party, but they are not related to agrarian interests in any form or way except with sound bytes to fish voters. They are not particularly against centralisation and mix liberalism with nationalism.
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Maybe the right thread, maybe the wrong thread. Don’t really care. It’s the basis of everything and will always underlie our elections.
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I don’t know whether some of the subsequent discussion about the Defund the Police issue with Dems represent a spectacular failure of mine to express my point, or demonstrate my point.
I agree it is a dumb slogan. I agree with the idea that if you are explaining you are losing, at least when viewed over the time frame of a single impending election. And if voters are telling candidates that they are concerned about it then these are things that need to be taken seriously. However, my issue is how the party establishment and the media talking heads who love to talk down to progressives tie this back to the party itself and to the specific members who are the default punching bags.
This is a slogan created and adopted by activist groups that are not part of the party, and is one that has not been picked up and ran with by any elected Dem with a significant national platform. However, there are deep rooted political tropes that exist this country and it because of those that this has been tied to the party, even to moderate Dems. It because of these tropes that makes someone who votes based on wanting safer streets (whatever that actually means in an era when violent crime is lower than a any point in the life of anyone who is voting on this issue) will reflexively vote for Republicans because they are the party of law and order, despite every Republican president since Nixon running a criminal operation out of the Whitehouse. It’s why people who vote based on “the economy” vote for republicans despite their policies fucking up the economy time and time again and the demonstrated failure of their singular economic theory of trickle down. Dems need to think of the Defund the Police association in this context. It is because of this that the Presidential candidate of the party can come out and explicitly condemn riots as a form of a protest and people can respond with a straight face and say “If only Biden would condemn the riots”. Yes, words matter, but these political tropes have a way more powerful impact on the way voters view parties over a specific issue than anything the party is going to say about it. This is a long term battle that needs to be addressed holistically, and so the likes of Spanberger and Lamb are misdiagnosing the problem and you will never get to the right solution from that place.
So what AoC is responding with is the comment that you are never going to out communicate a trope in the context of an election campaign. And especially not just by running tv ads. Instead what we need to do is commit to being present in the communities who are airing these concerns and show them who you are. This is a battle that cannot be won with messaging (although it can be lost with bad messaging), it is won by being present (and of course, actually standing for the right things). However, this is a long term process. People are praising Stacy Abrams for turning Georgie Blue, but this has been a decade long project that is only now seeing fruition. The same with Beto in Texas. Yet Beto says it and everyone nods their head in agreement. AoC says it and every says “Or mer gord, why doesnt she just shut the fuck up and stop ruining our campaigns.”
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I think Indiana is a great example of how Geography is not about what state yo border, but what the balance between urban and rural is in your state. We’ve been trained to think of states as Red or Blue, and then assume that if a state is next to a blue one that it probably is at least a swing state. But really, the issue is how many cities do you have and how big are they. Blue states are ones in which the answers are “enough” and “pretty fucking big”, and that just doesn’t apply to Indiana. When you compare Indiana to the blue wall states it is surrounded by, it just doesnt have the number of size of the urban areas (maybe Wisconsin is an exception to this rule, so maybe the relationship doesnt hold ALL that well), which is why there is a joke about about the state that its biggest city is Chicago (for those who dont know, Chicago is NOT in Indiana).
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The topic statement of your final paragraph is fantastic.
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Was trying to remember previous transitional periods that were fraught with risk. Found this one. I’m sure @Arminius has them rank ordered in his freakishly massive brain.
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Yes it is! It conjures up images of lawlessness and that gives concern to people, and the slogan needs conversation and explanation.
Just my opinion. Not my slogan and don’t especially care, but based on conversations I have with people, it’s a bad slogan.
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