Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

Hmm, with current seats, even with North Carolina, if he can get a slim win, he will still only end up with 269 so not enough. So seems Biden is in a hard fight unless the remaining votes in some states really come in big for Biden.

I’m just following the progress on the BBC election map graphic (link I posted above). That’s what I meant by closing…in the time I’ve been following it (only the last half an hour or so). That may be a misrepresentative snapshot, I accept!

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Nevada has completed in-person votes and mail ballots received before 2nd November.

All that is left is the ballots received after 2nd. They won’t update again on the count, apparently, until the 5th.

If mail in ballots left to count are the same breakdown as early mail in ballots then Biden will win the state. Trump will need to bank on late mail in support.

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I think he was 0.4% in Wisconsin at one point. Not sure if he got any further than that.

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So is this the current situation until the next update tomorrow?

Nevada

6 ELECTORAL VOTESPolls close at 3:00 a.m. GMT

86% of expected votes counted

*Incumbent

DEMOCRAT Biden 588,252 votes 49.3% of votes

REPUBLICAN Trump* 580,605 votes 48.7% of votes

LIBERTARIAN Jorgensen 11,068 votes 0.9% of votes

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I’ve only glanced at BBC coverage but seems they aren’t doing a great job of explaining the context of remaining votes - more that they’re just showing who is currently winning.

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Apparently so yes

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The current situation according to the BBC interactive map

Wisconsin

10 ELECTORAL VOTES Polls close at 2:00 a.m. GMT

89% of expected votes counted

*Incumbent

DEMOCRAT Biden 1,585,174 votes 49.2% of votes

REPUBLICAN Trump* 1,578,053 votes 49.0% of votes

LIBERTARIAN Jorgensen 37,279 votes 1.2% of votes

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i’m finding the Guardian coverage a little easier to follow, especially as I know diddly about te US political system.

That is currently showing Biden ahead overall with 238 college votes but has this useful little table which is a bit of a concern
|State | Votes left | Margin | Leading

Wisconsin 5% 169,000 7,172 Biden
Georgia 6% 301,000 102,823 Trump
North Carolina 6% 348,000 76,712 Trump
Michigan 13% 699,000 66,661 Trump
Nevada 33% 589,000 7,647 Biden
Pennsylvania 36% 2,992,000 675,012 Trump
Alaska 57% 207,000 46,553 Trump

Yes. They had a civil war about it

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kekeke ok. I meant recently? Like in the last decade or so? I am curious because it seems that the Trump era has brought these fragments really to the forefront.

Would never happen.

The blue states pay for the red states, and the latter knows this.

A country of red states would be toast quicker than you can say ‘trickle down economics.’

Look up Sam Brownback’s time as governor of Kansas. Did what all red state goobers talk about, the joint went broke in record time.

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I’m not really surprised by the states that are going to decide this, I thought it was pretty established long ago that Biden would need to pick up Arizona and the three rust belt states (Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania).
It’s just the margins seem a lot less comfortable than was predicted in the latter three. Must be the mail in stuff, just like Trump wanted I guess, or were the polls spectularly wrong?

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All eyes on Michigan atm, it’s starting to look much better.

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Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania (Georgia too?) are expected to have a strong finish for Dems because of the remaining mail in stuff to be counted (who knows whether it will be enough but I’ve seen some very reliable commentators thinks so).

Will be interesting to see what is made of the final outcome. Some of those further on the left are already attacking the Democrats campaign.

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My sense is they’ve been doing that all along.

I love Sam Seder for his pragmatism, but lots of his guests and contributors are left as.

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