Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

Senate has acquitted Trump 57-43. The Republican Party has all but admitted that the cult of Trump is bigger than they are by being afraid of losing votes if they impeached him. That’s the way I see it.

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McConnell speaking now…saying it is all Trump’s fault…etc etc

However, he is building up to saying the Democrats should not have alleged incitement…guaranteed…

He will blame the acquittal on the Dems for their flawed arguments.

He voted not guilty. Crazy logic.

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Goober logic.

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i read somewhere yesterday a comment that the republicans had indcated who they would vote for before the whole shitshow started.

the comment was, if thats indeed the case, whats the point of the trial?

what a waste of time and effort, and what an absolute horrible indication of whats actually wrong with American political law?

surely they should see the evidence before commiting to a decision?

if im wrong then i stand to be corrected, as im definately no expert on the subject, but if im right im amazed that theres no massive uproar…the whole point of the trial is to reveal the facts so you can make a decision…

to the point that the senators should be charged for dereliction of duty…

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So this Constitution and Amendment thing, when was it written again? I mean, lots of great freedom giving equality stuff in there but I doubt those guys back then could envisage every possible eventuality yet it’s now basically set in stone and immutable.

Yeah…the major US papers have been running whip counts for weeks, based on public statements etc.

Impeachment is a purely political process, and saw a comment today that often the rules get decided on the spot.

Messier than a puddle of vomited ouzo.

He basically said he’s as guilty as fuck and then wimped out in the vote holding up the Constitution as his justification for wimping out.

A centuries old document outweighs a logical conclusion? The people who set those things down were pretty smart but fuck, don’t these people want to use their own savvy?

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In my opinion, the Justice Department should raise an indictment against him. Head scratcher that they don’t have an open investigation. That McCarthy call my get them to reconsider. I hope so.

Fulton County in Georgia is investigating his phone call with their Secretary of State. Just want the guy to have to answer an indictment.

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I was wrong…he went with the private citizen argument…

After his uncommon attack on a fellow Republican, McConnell gets into why he did not, then, vote to convict.

He says impeachment is a “narrow tool for a narrow purpose”.

“If President Trump were still in office I would have carefully considered whether the House managers proved their specific charge.”

But McConnell says his understanding of the Constitution finds that only the president, vice-president and civil officers can be convicted: “We have no power to convict and disqualify a former officeholder who is now a private citizen”.

“If removal [from current office] becomes impossible,” he continues, “conviction becomes insensible.”

How ironic given he made no attempts to start the trial earlier…like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

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The Donald did set a new record though…seven is the most senators that have ever voted to impeach someone from their own party.

Kicking arse and taking names.

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So, is there going to be an inquiry into the riot?

And in other news, Cuomo, wtf?!

What riot?
Didn`t Trump say that nothing happened and it was all fake news.
He missed an opportunity there.

Don’t the Republicans have just 50 senators???

7 voted with their consciences.

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I dont think the 57 is the winning figure. There is a minimum number needed to vote in favour and that threshold wasn’t reached (is it 75?). So I think 57 represents 50 dems and 7 republicans who voted in favour of impeachment.

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Thanks @redfanman. I think you need two-third (66!!!) votes to impeach. @wyld.at.hrt post was confusing.

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Sorry to be pedantic, but it’s 67, ie more than 2/3. Therefore 10 more Republicans would have had to vote to convict. It was never going to happen with the current mood in their party. The whole thing was theatre.

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