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All about perspective I suppose. Ā£15M for Weghorst is good business IMO. Heāll be 30 this year but is in phenomenal physical condition.
Ā£15M for Origi is fair value and I donāt see the club getting much more than that if he does move. I donāt blame Divock if he has specific destinations he doesnāt want to go.
With all that said he would also likely get exponentially more minutes than heās currently getting here. The player has all the control and leverage and I donāt at all ever begrudge ANY playerās wishes to stay or go.
Doubt weāll get Ā£15m, he will probably be a free agent in 6 months.
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Thatās what I donāt understand in all of this.
Iāve been under the impression heās out of contract end of this season. He can sign on a free anywhere right now. Iām not understanding all these reports about ālistening to offersā.
If there is a club option to extend for one year I would imagine the club have to approach Div if they plan to activate that extra year simply to sell him. I could see that being a sensitive situation.
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From what Iāve heard, the clause is related to the amount of appearances he makes.
He can listen to offers from clubs abroad to move in the summer and pocket a decent signing on fee by waiting to move on a free, and likely sit around not doing much. Or if a club are interested in paying a fee to take him now and if Div finds the package/club attractive he could agree to it.
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I think the situation boils down to (complete guesswork of course based on whatās known);
Origi has a contract that ends this summer unless he meets an unknown number of appearances in which case its automatically extended. (Not known for sure but seems to be the case)
Heās on reasonable wages and if he goes somewhere on a free thereās more chance of those wages being matched or even slightly increased than if heās bought.
The clubs abroad that could make use of him and play in Europe are unlikely to be able to match/better his wages but might be Interested in buying him now for a small fee as theyāll be out of the running when itās ābig wagesā on offer if he becomes a bosman.
Clubs in England can meet or better his wages but they appear to be beneath the level Origi believes he can be at and donāt compete in Europe often if at all.
If his deal ends this summer foreign clubs can negotiate a free transfer now but English clubs canāt. Liverpool can hold the potential extension as a trump card as in theory it could get triggered meaning he still has 18 months to go.
Heās in awkward territory, too expensive for lesser European competing clubs in wages but not in fee. Not quite good enough for better European competing clubs to buy or to make serious plans to sign on a free even though his wages wouldnāt be a problem for some of them. Maybe too good for English clubs that donāt play in Europe but they can afford fee and wages.
I can imagine him staying till the summer and weighing up wages vs sporting project then will be the result. Doubt he triggers the extension or anyone heāll accept forks out for him tomorrow thereās as good or better around for cheaper. Unless he lowers his sights to a club where he can start rebuilding his career and play regularly.
My guess is on July the 1st Origi will turn up for training, only then to realise his contract has expired.
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Which July 1st do you think heāll have noticed on? 2022? 2023? Or 2024?
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Various non-entities on Twitter are saying that WHU are interested in a loan-to-buy deal for Origi.
Surely thatās bollocks as he would be out of contract at the end of the season? Canāt see anyone paying money for an out of contract player!
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Just guarantees heās yours come the summer rather than letting someone else persuade him in the meantime. But given the money theyāve been trying to throw at transfers this window youād have thought theyād just pay it now and be done with it.
Good news. Burnley shouldnāt need help avoiding relegation. Let that douchebag of a manager have relegation.
Also Origi is enrolled in a University in Liverpool. Doubt that he really wants to shift to another country right now. Worst case is get him to sign a new contract once this one runs out till his degree is over.
ā¦butā¦ why???
Loads of players sign add on contracts with an understanding that they will be sold if a proper offer comes to avoid losing them on a free
But Origi keeps rejecting the clubs willing to buy him. Weād end up with him still here till the extension runs out. Heās currently becoming an issue because he clearly isnāt a player Klopp wants to use often but we can only have so many players on the squad list and on the wage bill.
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I genuinely donāt know where you come up with such gems.
Over and over again (even in interviews with the manager) itās been stressed that the clubās been the one rejecting the offers because they come in below our valuations.
I think its a question of him wanting to have a base in the City due to his education etc. Liverpool is probably the only club where he did reasonably well after his initial move.
He didnāt perform all that well for any clubs he got loaned toā¦
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Five seconds on Google; Report: Origi rejected Wolves before signing new Liverpool contract
Sure I could come up with more evidence if I actually gave a shit, you seem to be the only person who doesnāt know about it.
Congratulations, you found an article from 2019 about him rejecting Wolves to sign a new contract with us.
Whereas youāve been trying to imply that since signing that new contract, heās been rejecting any interest from other clubs.
Also for what itās worth, I donāt usually pay attention to rumours, theyāre more entertainment to me. Itās pretty well-established by now that most people donāt know shit about anything internal to the club, like contract information for example. Transfers only get leaked from the other side. I donāt hang on every single rumour and transfer fantasy and get disappointed when most of them turn out to be the rubbish that they are, and cry about how weāre not spending money.