Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

I just heard that it is a $50k signing bonus to work for ICE. Further, they will pay off $60k of student loans/debt, and they also just lowered the age from 21 to 18.

Some, perhaps most, of the people who work for ICE are aligned with the aims. But throwing this much money at it tells me that to really scale it up in the way they want to, they are having to recruit people who probably object to what they are doing, but economically their hand is forced?

They are untrained, or trained to a very low level, and unaccountable. They are riding over due process and changing the fabric of the country.

It is scandalous.

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The argument she ends up making is that it is missing the point to be focused on the risks of the Constitutional Crisis that would come from them ruling against him and him ignoring it. The real crisis is the one we are actually in i- the constitutional crisis of the courts agreeing with they way they have done over and over again, and the way they have done it (use of the shadow docket, expediting hearing the case when Trump needs relief but delaying and delaying when that is beneficial).

Their podcast is a tough listen for normies because its 3 top lawyers talking about law. But they are all excellent guests when they go on other people’s podcasts to explain the latest case of the court being a broken institution. One of her cohosts Leah Littman was on the main Pod Saves episode yesterday

The NYT had a piece this week about their experience at an ICE career expo. They interviewed a guy who turned to IT consultancy after his MMA career burned out. He said he became interested in working for ICE because so many of the jobs in his new field are being taken by Indians (many of whom are not immigrants but are doing it from India) and he’s sick of it so thought going to work for the agency that will arrest them, and smash their head in the floor before deporting them sounds like good pay back.

He freely offered this explanation to someone he knew works for the NYT and was writing a piece about these cohorts of new hires. He offered it up the same way I would tell people I gravitated into my career because I like solving puzzles.

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Sounds like just the sort of person you don’t want. I want law enforcement to be calm, thought out, and enacted by trained individuals who are happy to show their face, their badge number, and be held accountable.

ICE is very far removed from that.

ICE is only different to standard policing in the US by degree rather than by type. But it is blood chilling that we’re now going to see ICE’s ranks swelled by people who would not qualify to work for a local police department.

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Yep, there are huge problems with ‘normal’ policing.

Unleashing an army of ICE agents with even less training, and less accountability, to mask up and do their worst, is appalling.

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You know who could have prevented this, Mitch? You could have so fuck off with this nonsense. I utterly reject any credit this weasel is ever given for his political acumen. He isnt a savy politician that Dems can learn from. He is a terrorist who has always been content to burn the place to the ground to get what he wants. A trump presidency is the response to that. And he could have learned from mistake during the first term and acted properly on either of the impeachment efforts. But he didnt, and this second term is now an even more direct straight line from those actions. Fuck you, Mitch

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Can’t Stand This Fucking Guy…

https://x.com/SecWar/status/1964071478955032634

https://x.com/nukestrat/status/1964125385714548818

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More emptiness by the deplorables for the deplorables. Republican scum need to all be eliminated.

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https://x.com/vcdgf555/status/1964123320087171255
https://x.com/vcdgf555/status/1964124450112360823
https://x.com/vcdgf555/status/1964125147226333595
https://x.com/vcdgf555/status/1964126378191888567

I agree with Woofers. I can absolutely see the current US admin punching itself into a war just to show resolve and dominance. Latino rebellious streak on an absolute minimum for the sake of your own survival, please. Venezuela is too geographically close, so US could do anything if escalation is in order.
(I think the US is planning to escalate, but not sure how much).

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Lots of the actions on immigration are predicated on Venezuela being a hostile country. Being engaged in hostilities with them gives his administration more room to deport people without due process

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The Trump administration are openly saying Maduro’s regime is involved in drug trafficking.
This means things can escalate very quickly or simmer for a very long time as the Trump administration can not be seen to be doing nothing under such circumstances.
There will be tentatives of regime change in the not to distant future imo.
Could get very messy for Venezuela. It will be interesting to see what the US target.

This is how he redefined “warfighting” in 2019:

He’ll claim that he knows nothing, and blame it on Biden.

I don’t think there’s any doubt now that Trump would ignore any ruling against him , and rather than risk seeing themselves become irrelevant they would further contort themselves to give him what he wants.

The crunch will come soon enough when the same ‘major questions doctrine’ which the conservatives on the court used to clip Biden’s wings over student debt forgiveness will presumably be in play again over the tariffs. Anyone seeking consistency from these chameleons should hold their breath , although there is a hope that with their approval ratings already in the gutter they could put themselves on the side of public opinion , at least on this issue alone.

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tbf its easier for the Don to spell War than it is Defense

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In rare interviews with NBC News, a dozen federal judges — appointed by Democratic and Republican presidents, including President Donald Trump, pointed to a pattern they say has recently emerged:

Lower court judges are handed contentious cases involving the Trump administration. They painstakingly research the law to reach their rulings. When they go against Trump, administration officials and allies criticize the judges in harsh terms. The government appeals to the Supreme Court, with its 6-3 conservative majority.

And then the Supreme Court, in emergency rulings, swiftly rejects the judges’ decisions with little to no explanation.

Ten judges said the Supreme Court should better explain those rulings, noting that the terse decisions leave lower court judges with little guidance for how to proceed.

But they also have a new and concerning effect, the judges said, validating the Trump administration’s criticisms. A short rebuttal from the Supreme Court, they argue, makes it seem like they did shoddy work and are biased against Trump.

Read more: nbcnews.app.link/XsSl7AFGoWb

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It’s almost as if they don’t want any scrutiny of the administration :thinking:

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That is a given,he didn’t stack SCOTUS for nothing,easier to have a stacked court rubberstamping your every whim,than just ignoring them,though he gets away with that too!

2019 was be fore Biden, so it was obviously Obama’s fault