Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

To be fair their opponents end up committing such crimes as “not tipping” or accidentally fall out of windows in their country

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Some of the reactions I am reading on Musk’s network:
https://x.com/realmattforney/status/1965855263623413791
https://x.com/realmattforney/status/1965870658669473920

You may want to google the term if you don’t know what Stochastic means. Essentially it is arbitrary/random terror, targeting each and every one and let God sort out the guilty. Fairly extreme.

Note also: Reichstagsfire is widely believed by serious historians to have been lit by NSDAP goons, as it was started in several places and only they benefited.

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I’m not sure what political point he is trying to make but “let’s go down the route of Nazism” isn’t really thought out too well is it?

If he could think for about 5 seconds he would be trying to cast Kirk as the new Horst Wessel, they could also create an absolutely horrific dirge to some music by a Jewish composer (or someone they hate, maybe borrow a Bruce Springsteen song as they usually do).

Of course that would on any sensible social media platform be removed and banned within the hour but Grok I am reliably informed was telling people the killing was a fake meme before.

I would say it’s very unlikely to be a communist, then again it’s dubious whether the Reichstag fire was a lone culprit.

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A lot of these types are reacting with “the left is now forcing us to nazism with their terror and we have no other choice but to eradicate them, root and stem”

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I suppose for once you could grimly say it’s what he would have wanted.

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Forgetting of course that this is the context…this is what Kirk thought of political violence as long as it was directed the right direction.

https://x.com/jasonscampbell/status/1587127536122732544?s=61&t=VxX1vHU3NOwwNhlbyICG-g

Please inform me of any major democrats who go to Halloween this year dressed as a gushing Kirk and having a great laugh about it

This doesn’t mean he deserved it but he is not a sympathetic figure. He went out according to the rules of the game he was gleefully playing…he just never thought they would be applied to him.

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The sad thing is some person’s family will suffer in reprisal and they will probably be some normal family with the odd bumper sticker around election time. Thats where the bollocks above from X ends up. It ends up in more death and destruction.

Thats what happens when you arm your citizens with a weapon that’s aim is to kill.

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Oh, about kirk. He has said so many cruel things, to his massive follower base, acting like the very worst of demagogues. I could assemble an album. But that would digress the thread a lot and also probably lead to some people blaming me for disrespecting the recent dead. But the man was dangeorus, because he was effective and charismatic. Saying the cruelest lies with a straight sympathetic face. Most Americans would also think he is good looking. Boyish. A very effective apperance for his job as influencer.

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No idea, who this guy is. But he ought to lay fucking low for a while:

(I doubt he is the shooter, as shooter was clearly in hindsight skilled, managing to successfully extracting himself and not be apprehended yet; which takes a certain skill or at least a lot of luck).

Elon is also out helping maintain the coherance in the sociopolitical weave of society. He is like a spider queen, strenghtening that very critical net that everyone and everything relies on.

Trump chimes in to cool emotions and make Americans come together as a society
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1965943273840943111

Given that Bluesky is full of Liberals laughing at kirk’s death and Twitter full of MAGA’s swearing revenge and civil war (which I am sure you would agree is a pretty fucking bad sociological condition), finding the perpetrator asap is highly important to defuse conspiracies and give some semblance of order.

So I hope Jackson isn’t correct:
https://x.com/hissgoescobra/status/1965946371263049999

Only somewhat skilled. If he/she was a pro, the gun would be clean and it would have been left on or near the scene. With Utah gun laws, a clean untraceable gun is not that difficult. The gun was likely a readily available stock AR15, but maybe something as mundane as a hunting 0.22 (only one round fired). From the impact (which was bloody, but not enough to unbalance him in reaction, he slumps toward the wound side rather than being knocked back), it was not a particularly powerful round, unlikely to be any larger than a 5.6mm.

As it is, the gun will probably be the tell for any witnesses. It would appear the shot came from the roof of the Computer Science building, well under the 200 yards originally reported (~120 meters). There is a parking lot on the opposite side of the building, which is not particularly tall. One flight of stairs and 25 meters could get one into a parked car, and onto Campus Drive inside two minutes without conspicuously running. Another minute along Campus Drive, and the car could merge onto Interstate 15. The car could be outside the state within little more than an hour.

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That they think the nazis were right and their own movement should learn from their approaches to grab power, but don’t call us nazis because that’s rude

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Good evening, Petri. How has your night been in Finland? Everything is still dreary as usual, I take it ?And yes, I agree that it’s a shame that assassins these days are no longer of the Jackal’s quality. It’s depressing, I agree.

No, but seriously, you are right. But the thing is, having checked out the aftermath and judging by what witnesses says, I do believe the assassin to not at all be an untrained school boy, but someone far more experienced and skilled.
But yes, operation (if it is an OP) could be better, quite certainly. And indeed, range was very short for a rifle. But even so :wink:

Damn,I was certain he would blame Biden,but then he thinks Biden is a “radical leftie”.

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Doesn’t have to be a professional, lots of amateurs can make a 125m cold bore shot if they are familiar with their rifle setup and know the math. That’s a fairly common distance for game hunters

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This may be off topic, but I was wondering how the whole registered voter thing works.

I noticed Fox made some claim about a susect being a Democrat. Now they may have just made this up, but I frequently see claims made to an individual’s party affiliation.

Are these held on a publicly available database? What information gets stored (name, address, DoB). From a European point of view, it looks like a data protection nightmare.

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Election rules are created at the state level so each state has different registration requirements and different data available. Then each locality in each state (3,000 different localities countrywide) are the ones that actually implement those rules run the elections. The system is complex which is a strength if you are worried about someone trying to rig a federal election (it’s very hard to do)

Some states require you to register for a political party to be able to vote in that parties primary election. Other states allow you to register your political party affiliation (Republican, Democrat, Independent) but it doesn’t impact if you can vote in certain primaries or not. In those cases people that are registered republican may be regular democratic voters and vice versa because you register at 19 and maybe never change your affiliation but keep voting but your voting habits change.

Data wise most states will keep your name, address, party affiliation (this changes state to state) and which elections you voted in. Who you actually voted for remains anonymous. However if you see someone has voted in every Republican primary election for 20 years (even if they are registered as democrat or independent) you can pretty easily guess they typically vote Republican.

Yes typically each state has its own website you can look up this public information.

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I’m pretty sure that would be forbidden under GPDR. In fact, in Germany it would probably be illegal even to store that information (obviously a different political system)

Thanks for the reply.

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