Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

Anecdotally, I’d say it is mixed. I live in Indiana, which is traditionally a red state.

There are plenty of people who think that what Trump is doing is along the right lines, and needed for the country. The MAGA people I know are fairly mild in the MAGA sphere, and would concede that on a personal level he is an awful human being, but they would argue he is doing a necessary job for the good of the country.

Some Republicans I know are concerned about the Epstein stuff. If some of the more heinous stuff is proven that would lead them to stop supporting Trump.

The Democrats I know are appalled by what is happening under Trump and generally see most of the issues in a similar way to people on here.

I’m not sure to what degree people think that their democracy is under threat. I think most Americans overestimate the strength of the system they have, and assume it can withstand the pressure testing it is currently experiencing.

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His overall approval rating is as good as it’s ever been , about ten points higher than Biden’s was ! Polls around his policies might tell a different story but as for the man himself , well , it seems he’s still fucking bullet proof.

Edit: From a couple of days ago.

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The very weird thing about MAGA 2.0 is it includes a lot of people who were not MAGA first time around. They don’t necessarily support Trump but have been radicalized by the culture wars MAGA are fighting and wound themselves up something insane about the same issues while refusing to own/accept their new political position. In some ways these people are harder to reach because they still want to retain their identity as an independent thinker and often acknowledges MAGA is nuts. They separate themselves from the movement while drinking from the same firehose of misinformation and rage bait and end up in the same place. Think our absent Canadian friend.

The direction I’ve seen people go in as a response to the Kirk shooting has been quite surprising in the unpredictability of it.

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If I did this when I was a conscript after recruit school, I would not be allowed to have a pistol for a while, far less a rifle if it it contained ammunition (yeah, some young soldiers do stupid things when NCOs are not looking, like aiming at each other with unloaded rifles at times; but that’s rather different). It would have been made into a very humiliating lesson (we had one who wasn’t allowed to carry a rifle because he said and did stupid shit with it, so they took it; and he was later discharged weeks after for reckless use of firearms)

I don’t understand how this is ok in the US. I would have been hit with a stick (at least if I had a helmet on, but maybe without it as well considering who my lieutanant was) and shouted at for 5 minutes, then I would have been reprimanded and fined in front of my platoon in a humiliating manner (scratch that, as it would in front of the entire batallion with company commander and batallion commander watching).
https://x.com/tobiaschneider/status/1973328236198371711

It’s like an disorganised militia.

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Who to believe ? RealClearPolitics has him today at 45 , which is actually very good by today’s standards.

Nate Cohen , in the NYT podcast , said his numbers haven’t moved since their last poll in April.

No foreign wars. We’re no longer going to accept sending our boys off to die in some foreign land. Unless you buy me a plane and give my son in law 1.5B to play a make believe investment manager, then we can have as many of our kids die on your shores in defense of your country as you want

https://x.com/AaronBlake/status/1973367863449919923

And this is the problem with Trump’s corruption. Is there a valid to give this commitment to Qatar? I have no idea, but the fact Trump and family are so personally intertwined with them, and he has repeatedly spoken about his perspective that we’re mugs to not use “his” military like mercenaries, means you cannot avoid the conclusion there is some self dealing happening.

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Notably, this invokes several powers that are reserved to Congress.

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It’s an Executive Order. Thread by @james_acton32 on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App

The problem is that removing the pledge after due process in Congress, has a big political cost, of course.

Meanwhile, US ignores the Budapest Memorandum and is moving away, rapidly at high speed, from it’s long history of asserting that it will support (not directly defend, US has never actually stated that, but used vague lingo on purpose to deter China) Taiwan in the event of an invasion .

But sure, great ally Qatar must be protected.

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Posting this here as well, because this is Big Impact news
https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1973529836023918754

(yes, I am happy).
As Colby says, this is a tremendous difference from Biden’s restrictions
https://x.com/ColbyBadhwar/status/1973530242380866044

This comes after the news (which I have posted in the War thread), that after much, much, much, much Russin humiliation of Trump and the US; Trump is mulling sending Thomahawks to Ukraine (Note: selling, not giving of course, because MAGA must MAGA); which has been confirmed by general Kellogh and others.

With 39% drop of oil production after Ukrainian drone strikes (probably more since yesterday after that large refinery blew up) and large internal problems with petrol delivery, this is fantastic news !

This comes after Russia has resumed methodical destruction of the Ukrainian electrical grid, and 2 days ago, for the first time, Ukraine reciprocated with US blessing and hit Belgorod with US supplied HIMARS (previously forbiden).

End Note: Fuck you, Joe Biden and even more so, fuck you Sullivan for all the blood you indirectly helped spill, for the thousands of lives lost and for the thousands of children growing up without fathers as a direct result of your henious targeting restrictons and your craven approach in aiding Ukraine; letting them bleed out while promising them bullshit.

Ps. Also fuck Trump, but not in this case for once.

Pps. Trump has not made final decision on those Thomahawks.

Pps. Continue making threats Medvedev. Everyone knows you are irrelevant but Trump and some how your drunken words made Trump send 2 SSNs to threaten Russia. You are helping for sure the good side.

Go fucking go go go !
https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1973527899010679010

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Speculative this, (the NATO incursions and their hybrid war campaign against NATO allies probably didn’t help them either, as it forced a whole 2 Article 4 meetings, almost 3 in fact).
https://x.com/Schizointel/status/1973541935701717234
But yes, Uncle Vanya with his massive domestic petrol crisis, probably should have taken the Orange king’s absurdly gracious offer instead of spitting in Trump’s face.
A shame for the Russians that corroding your society with Ultra Nationalist propaganda and revanchist imperial ambitions has severe weaknesses; principally in the fact that you cannot easily back down even an inch or you will lose the support of those you have enflamed and destabilise your own society with angry monarchists, fascists and Soviet dreamers.

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Chuckles

https://x.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1973532406389809309

My conspiracy theory side is screaming that the US arms dealers are the real power brokers here, and no matter who sits in the Whitehouse, they were leaning on them to drag this whole sorry saga out.

Massive bonus being no US soldiers at risk.

Apologies for being Captain Obvious.

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Thought this was worth inclusion in the thread…

A Reagan-appointed judge just TORCHED Donald Trump’s unconstitutional assault on free speech – as well his ICE abuses –in one of the most scathing legal rulings we’ve EVER seen.

Trump got his authoritarian ambitions shredded — not by a liberal firebrand, not by a “radical left” activist judge, but by a Reagan-appointed federal judge who knows the Constitution better than Trump ever will.

U.S. District Judge William Young didn’t just rule against Trump’s plan to deport non-citizen students for protesting Israeli actions in Gaza — he obliterated it. And he did it in a 161-page opinion that reads like a love letter to the Constitution — and a warning siren to a country sleepwalking toward authoritarianism.

And Judge Young made it personal right out of the gate. He attached a threatening anonymous postcard someone had sent him:

“TRUMP HAS PARDONS AND TANKS…WHAT DO YOU HAVE?”

His reply? Pure constitutional poetry:

“Alone, I have nothing but my sense of duty. Together, We the People … have our magnificent Constitution.”

That’s how you open a legal ruling. With spine. With defiance. With a reminder that the Constitution doesn’t belong to Trump — it belongs to We The People.

From there, Judge Young reprinted the actual text of the First Amendment — apparently deciding that if Trump, Kristi Noem, and Marco Rubio keep pretending not to understand it, he’d spell it out for them like children: “Congress shall make NO LAW… prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech.”

And then he lowered the boom:

Calling this case “perhaps the most important ever to fall within the jurisdiction of this district court,” Judge Young settled the matter once and for all:

“The Court answers the Constitutional question [of whether non-citizens have First Amendment rights] unequivocally ‘yes, they do.’ ‘No law’ means ‘no law.’ The First Amendment does not draw President Trump’s invidious distinction [between citizens and non-citizens,] and it is not to be found in our history or jurisprudence.”

Translation: Trump’s attempt to strip free speech rights from non-citizens is not only unconstitutional, it’s flat-out un-American.

And Judge Young wasn’t finished. He took direct aim at Trump’s fragile ego and strongman cosplay:

“The President’s palpable misunderstanding that the government simply cannot seek retribution for speech he disdains poses a great threat to Americans’ freedom of speech.”

Let’s pause here: A Reagan judge just said the former Republican president poses “a great threat to Americans’ freedom of speech.” Imagine how far gone you have to be to get that kind of rebuke.

Judge Young then cut deeper:

“I fear President Trump believes the American people are so divided that today they will not stand up, fight for, and defend our most precious constitutional values so long as they are lulled into thinking their own personal interests are not affected.”

That’s the Trump strategy in a nutshell: keep people divided, distracted, and convinced the Constitution is somebody else’s problem — right until it’s too late.

And then came one of the most searing passages we’ve ever read from the federal bench, this time about Trump’s ICE shock troops:

“ICE goes masked for a single reason — to terrorize Americans into quiescence. Small wonder ICE often seems to need our respected military to guard them as they go about implementing our immigration laws. It should be noted that our troops do not ordinarily wear masks. Can you imagine a masked marine? It is a matter of honor — and honor still matters. To us, masks are associated with cowardly desperados and the despised Ku Klux Klan. In all our history, we have never tolerated an armed masked secret police.”

Read that again. A federal judge just compared Trump’s ICE to the Ku Klux Klan. And he’s right. No democracy tolerates a “masked secret police” — except the one Trump is trying to build.

Judge Young made plain that Trump has repeatedly violated the Constitution. But here’s the kicker: thanks to the Supreme Court’s disgraceful ruling granting Trump blanket immunity for his “official acts,” this president-turned-defendant can shrug off accountability for now.

Still, the decision is a thunderclap. It rules for the plaintiffs, reaffirms that the First Amendment protects everyone — citizen or not — and leaves the executive branch scrambling to figure out what “remedies” they’ll face for trying to shred our most fundamental freedom.

Make no mistake: this ruling is more than legal precedent. It’s a moral indictment. It’s a reminder that even after years of Trump’s bullying, gaslighting, and “hollow bragging,” there are still judges who will stand up and say:

The First Amendment is NOT negotiable, no matter WHAT Trump thinks.

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Trump has to be on the winning side,
so he can tell the world, look what I did,
how great am I?

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Cue the mortgage fraud investigation.

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:scream: :rofl:

Edi Rama is totally nuts. If Trump didn’t exist, I would create threads just about him.

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I don’t think that makes any sense though. The production is up regardless and many of these weapons are in very short supply.

This has to do with geopolitical factors and Trump’s persona; not any push from arms industry, which is selling to the US regardless.

Example: Extreme global shortage of inteceptors, shortage of 155 mm munitions, shortage of all advanced artillery munitions, shortage of stand off missiles (in Europe we barely have any left). General shortage of fires.
I have actually posted quite a lot of articles about this in the past.

Conclusion: This has absolutely nothing to do with arms dealers being the real brokers, which cannot be substantiated. The problem we have in the West (particularly Europe) is the lack of ammunition production, not that there is too much of it. US has storage, but refuses to deplete them below certain numbers and so on. Again, there is a critical lack of munitions in the West.

From 2023 :

Why do people think Ukraine has to use small drones and that it’s supporters (both EU and before that US) are unable to supply it with munitions for the war comparative to the munition production of Russia ? The drone revolution came about because of critical lack of ammunition in the first place.

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