Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

How very magnanimous of you.

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Methinks we need an ā€œIgnoranceā€ thread.

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What a horrible sight :sad_but_relieved_face:.

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https://x.com/ianbremmer/status/2023001781694066754

I mean, those numbers doesn’t seem very surprising.

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:fu:

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If there ever comes a reckoning for Trump and MAGA, then Musk, Bezos and the rest of these billionaire cunts have to face it too.

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Your post just proves my point. You state that you are intolerant of people living in a different objective reality to the one we are living in. Who determines this reality? You?

We can argue all day long but where does that get us? you have on numerous occasions suggested the Brexit result was down to Racist/stupid people - that is an opinion.
The Country voted to leave the EU - that is a fact.

Can I ask how Countries in the EU are fairing economically? Shall we discuss the French economy? Shall we discuss the bailout of countries in the Eurozone? Shall we discuss why there is a rise in right wing politics in the EU? Why there is widespread poverty in the EU? Why legislation is imposed by the few, the Rich, the ones who you detest? If the EU is so great, why is it in such disarray?
If Left wing politics is without fault then why is it not thriving in the EU? Explain to me the difference of opinion to the difference of fact in this scenario.

Many other people here have explained this to you at great length. You have failed to take on board anything said to you. Why should I waste my time?

Sadly the deplorables have proved, time and again, that they can’t be reasoned with.

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Do you not find it strange that we were discussing ignorance and you have got all defensive and almost attempted to justify your ignorance? Making it political and trying to shut me down? Why is that?
I have never said RW politics is right and you will find that I never disputed the fact RW politics thrives in economic difficulties, I only challenged people’s opinion that present day UK is no different to Nazi Germany.
A question, which I am sure you will answer
is if RW politics thrives in economical difficulties then why did the UK vote Labour in at the last election? I mean didn’t the RW Tories leave us in a challenging economical position? But we voted in a Left wing party, am I correct, no?

So the RW media that saw us join the EU in the first place, stopped the country voting in Labour?
The same RW media you provided a link to when Reform were refused permission to hold a debate at a Welsh Uni. Last week?
The funny thing is, that on the day you posted this link there had been a PMQ, where Starmer had been pulled up on his decision making, appointing Mandelson and also giving Peerage to a pedophile and guess what, not a mention, not even a snippet from you or anyone else for that matter. Why not? If it was the Tories, you would be jumping all over it.
Yes the World avoids the real truth and you and I are no different.

I have failed to take on board anything said to me….why because I haven’t fallen in line with your views.
You genuinely cannot provide me an answer, otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation. There is no answer, but what is clear is that your views are not shared by all, be ignorant and dismiss their views by all accounts, continue to blame the failure of society on someone else, rather than question your own attitude.

I tell you what, I will hold my hand up and accept that some of my views/opinions may be as a result of my Ignorance, can you??

The comparison is with early 30s Germany, as well you know.

No, I could take the time writing it out for you. There is an obvious reason why left wing politics is not thriving across Europe which has a lot to do with the political landscape and media discourse being controlled by the very people who would be worse off under progressive governments.

But since I can confidently say you won’t even read it, like you clearly didn’t with the other posters who tried, I won’t be wasting my time going any further than that.

I’ve had views in the past that I would call ignorant now, but I try not to hold opinions that don’t have an evidential basis to them, and I try not to base opinions on things I can’t prove.

What is the difference, unless by referring to the early 30s you are on about the Weimar Republic?

Yet everyone who voted for Brexit is Stupid and racist?

The difference if that the Nazi’s didn’t come to power promising to exterminate the Jews and annex half of Europe.

If you look at what is happening in America right now (with the UK not far behind) and don’t see the terrifying echoes of European Fascism, then you are simply burying your head in the sand.

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No, some of them were just cuntsšŸ‘

(In seriousness, my attitude to Brexit has always been sympathy for the conned and contempt for the conmen - a lot of people voted Brexit for reasons I’d describe as racist and a lot voted without having a clue what they voted for - that’s undoubtedly true. I’m not sure I have ever claimed everyone was racist or stupid)

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This is ridiculous and speculative. Is there a rise in RW politics, yes. However, has there been a shut down on the freedom of speech? I do not see a restriction on Pro-Palestine or Black right marches. In the press you will find more stories about England flags being removed from Lamposts because of people’s concerns about them being devisive. You have formed an opinion that anyone who votes Reform is Racist, people can have concerns about immigration without being stupid or hateful.

From my understanding, you live in a nice village where the only thing that you can complain about is someone speeding through temporary traffic lights. So your perspective of life is completely different to the majority of the UK. This goes for all of us, which is why we need to be more understanding and not dismiss people’s concerns because they are different to our own.
Anyhow, I am happy for you to reply in kind but I will not respond purely because we will not find common ground. :+1:t2:

I agree :joy:.