please let this be true…Mascot in a midsommers murder episode…
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This is the US politics thread, not UK.
A comparison was made, a couple of thousand posts back, between the US now and Germany in the thirties when the nazis came to power.
The parallels being militia thugs on the streets intimidating the population, attacks on the free press and the legal system, demonisation of opponents, propaganda, a complete disregard for truth and facts etc etc.
You have derailed the discussion with questions about the word ignorance and constant references to UK politics.
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Here’s a positive story about US politics:
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My bad, the thread was derailed by me only. I really should stop talking to myself.
On a serious note, i appreciate that this probably shouldn’t have happened in the US thread and I apologise for that. However, I never started the discussion and there were numerous participants, including yourself.
You are right to raise the issue but don’t just call me out.
To conclude I posted in good faith and will be more observant on the thread I am posting in going forward.
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Spot on,those parallels are certainly there for all to see Minneapolis alone showed that.
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No. I responded to a specific point in your posts that I felt warranted challenge, again, which I quoted.
Hmm suspect
With absolutely zero evidence or arguments of your own. Only waffle.
I don’t want to drift off topic here, but if you remember the Tories collapsed during the last cycle. Reform split the RW wing vote. Look up how many people vote for RW parties. After that it’s a result of our electoral first past the post system. It would have been a different outcome if it had been proportional representation.
Theres literally several posts on it. Seriously, look again. Ignorance, or just not seeing I wonder? Mandelson was someone I knew little about being honest but wholly shit could there have been a worse person to put into your inner team? That shit bag’s sole purpose in life was to feed info and enrich himself.
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Dude, this is why people get frustrated with you. If you want to have the conversations based on mutual understanding and tolerance that you say you do, you have to stop putting words in other people’s mouths.
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Can we move all this ? It doesn’t belong here.
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But what about the people who think it does? Is this your ignorance perhaps?
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No surprise, but it is overtly hostile against the EU, obviously. But then again, the EU is targeted for destruction, as they write in their public plans; because it makes imposing subjugating demands on individual European states far more difficult.
https://x.com/carlbildt/status/2023383856544371159
https://x.com/Mpolymer/status/2023342771214688371
Like I said above:
https://x.com/slantchev/status/2023422202302120009
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Is there a mechanism for the other EU member states to eject Hungary?
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No.
It’s why I don’t support an EU membership for Norway and why I am against joining the dysfunctional union (which I want to succeed, but it’s a shit house that currently is shackled to the whims of illiberal authoritarian eastern European regimes friendly with Russia).
The EU in it’s current form is extremely strong in trade negotiations but a geopolitical wing-clipped entity that cannot do what it claims it does and wants to do.
Notably: EU is also waging economic warfare against my country, unfairly, and had it been another year, I would be in favour of retaliation (which has nothing to do with me wanting to join or not join). But the Trump madness kind of makes retaliating against the EU a bit less practical. On the other hand, my instinct is to retaliate and hurt the EU for deterrance and frankly, revenge.
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But frankly, it is disgusting that they even dared to do this to us, when we could absolutely shatter European energy security overnight.
So of course Norwegians are angry. But we are not about to commit economic suicide by stopping gas sales or anything else very drastic. We are actually not going to retaliate at all, because we are in a dangerous squeeze between the EU and the US. But opinion polls shows that the EU can fucking forget to get us a member the next few decades to put it like that. A lot of people want retaliation.
The EU is probably screwed then. As a trading bloc, very powerful. Everyone will want good relations on that front as it’s in everyone’s interests. China. America. Everyone.
But as an entity that currently doesn’t quite have enough of a military deterrent (correct me if I’m wrong) against Russia to the East, or America to the west, it seems vulnerable to the sort of moves the Trump administration is doing to undermine it.
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It seems ridiculous to say that Europe needs an independent deterrent, and that America is not a friend, but that’s what it increasingly looks like.
Arguably once Trump is gone relations might improve. My best guess there is it will be more genial and more professional, but the underlying conditions won’t have gone away.
Troubled times.
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Shrugs
Seems accurate.
I think the EU will survive Trump, mind you. But in it’s current form, it is not a very interesting (or it’s interesting, but not in a way you want it to be interesting) geopolitical entity due to lack of security apparatus and synchronisation between member states. I suppose you could say, the EU is as far from a cohesive empire as you can possibly be. Which is great according to some, but it fucking sucks if you are trying to play an important geopolitical role.
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They’ve already found a way around negating the veto . I’m pretty sure , if they put their minds to it , they could find a way to expel them.
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They have, after extremely many years when it was the most pressing matter of importance during those years. But it’s unclear if they can bypass member-states Hungary and Slovakia on other things than funding for Ukraine.
I’m, sorry, but I give them the Grade F for this. It’s not an E on an exam, it’s an F.
As for expelling them, lose talk. No action. No real threats. Orban and the other degenerates would fold if expulsion was the actual threat. Grade F there as well.
Anyway, I am of coruse extremely bitter because of this and more than a bit resentful against the EU as an entity due to how fucking useless it has been during the war (before 2022, the EU was never challenged, this was it, this was the occation and the EU failed as a system). And now trade war against Norway which their own laywers say are unjust.
Rubio pledges financial support for Hungary so they won’t have to change course.
https://x.com/slantchev/status/2023421188924645867
There is no reason for Orban not to cheat in the coming election if he feels like it, if US will still support Hungary even after such a fraud (which is likely).
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https://x.com/AFP/status/2023435810876317933
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https://x.com/Schellenaffe/status/2023501793494528337
https://x.com/Tati_WM/status/2019475588038132124
Let’s wait and see what the reactions will be over there; I suspect they won’t be good.
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