England National Team

I remember Souness as being much more comfortable with the shorter passing game than Stevie was.

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I think it was telling that there was something missing in midfield when Souness left. I’m not sure his temper was that much of an issue. He had a reputation as a hard man, and he was certainly aggressive, but it was controlled when he played with us. His red cards were when he was playing for Rangers, and his physicality had declined.

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There is no comparison Gerrard had everything in his locker,

Yeah actually very good point. You can’t be the captain and lead a side to 3 European cups and be a loose cannon like that. He was a real leader too

Well, Ramos? Aha

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I think so too. Not that Gerrard didn’t have those deft short passes but his passing selection always was slanted towards now now now and making something happen quickly

He was never the conducting type like xavi, Scholes or pirlo. Even if he could pass like them from a technical perspective.

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https://x.com/itsjudithworld/status/2078701600734904824

Here you can see Jordan Henderson asking for an extra medal, which is then handed to the fourth-choice goalkeeper (Steele), allowing him to join the team on the podium for the photo. Bravo.

https://x.com/LimbzHQ/status/2078768106608923066

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https://youtube.com/shorts/bDGj4K32wIM?si=qjiIsLFTnPsgjLxs

Totally agree with Writghty

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Souness in all honesty was miles better than Gerrard…Souness would make Gerrard look like a Jay Spearing player :rofl:

Both great players , but sadly different generations etc one had a great team around them in all positions…and erm the other had jamie carragher

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I’ll put it out there but bar that 20 minutes against Argentina I do think he did well did Tuchel. There are only usually 3-4 teams at a Tournament so the “he didn’t beat the top teams” is always a bit of a fallacy he didn’t have to beat Brazil because Norway did and they were far the better side.

Germany “a top team” where shit so went out. Remember 8 years ago you had semis with France, Belgium, Croatia and England.

Where are the “top teams” bar France? You can throw the World Cup and go better managers fell because they faced great teams but they didn’t.

You say if draw played out play Germany and Brazil but would you say that you’d be beating top teams?

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Trump being right about something is like a monkey throwing shit at a wall - eventually some of it will stick.

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The whole top teams idea is often nonsense based on historical reputation not current level.

Brazil and Germany are clearly no longer top teams stacked with very good players. Beating them wouldnt equate to beating Spain or France in a proper game.

Fans and the media love to do it though. Like when we beat Croatia it was hailed because Croatia used to be good, despite their best player being about 40 years old currently.

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Yeah like someone didn’t write that for him to say?

I would say purely based on current form Norway is more of a top team and they did beat Brazil right and proper.

I think the Japanese could have definitely beaten Brazil, they just didn’t believe they could. Just like they could have beaten Holland with more self-belief.

This Brazil is just pathetic. (Sorry Ali)

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I think Norway is better than Brazil currently arguably but do you think a top team? Hmmm.

They only really have Haaland and Odegaard as established players, though a few decent wingers. Holland are another one. Historically a top side but now its debatable.

I guess you´d say France, Spain, Argentina, England I guess, and err?

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I said closer to a top team. You can’t become a top team in one tournament. You build that reputation over multiple tournaments.

Ah so you did, sorry

I mean outside the four I mentioned I think Norway is probably not far off being 5th or 6th. So you’re probably right mate

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https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/2079158177891770516

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That’s an official thing?

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/49397919/kylian-mbappe-wins-golden-boot-2026-world-cup-lionel-messi-goalless-final

Rewarding failure.
Mbappes 2 goals in the 3rd place match shouldn’t count towards the golden boot either

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