England National Team

You’ve got to remember why he was taken on in the first place: He was CHEAP. Talent had nothing to do with it. So the short answer is…yes.

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Did England have a decent manager since Erickson???

Eriksson wasn’t a decent manager, at best a half-decent one. For England, you’d have to go back to Bobby Robson I think. That run into the semi-finals at the world cup in 1990 still remains the highlight of the tournament in my memory. They had some brilliant players at the time, and their style of play was fantastic to watch.

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I wouldn’t say Southgate was that bad so far. But I understand as long as England don’t win something (and boy it’s been a long time), all teams/generations/managers will be classed as bottlers. I don’t see every England team/manager that same way. Some progress was made, he’s got some creative solutions. Before, it wasn’t good because England repeated the same mistakes. Now, it’s still not good. And yes, so far, it wasn’t good enough yet. Will it be enough something under him? Who knows, maybe not. But as things stand I think he’ll leave them in a better place. Though that also depends when that happens.

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I think you are going way back. Yeah, the difference between your and my timeline is just 10 years.

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Big Sam - the only England manager with 100% win record :wink:

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I’m only going to post once in this thread and it’s to say that if the England national team never play another game I’ll be happy.
That goes for all internationals in fact.
Ok, as you were…

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His co-commentator told him Holland had just equalised against Scotland he said he couldn’t care less or words to that effect even his colleague told him off about it

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No, I don’t think cost was the primary factor. They wanted a young English manager to develop alongside a young side. He was available and I think had been coaching the under 21’s so was a natural candidate.

Unfortunately, he is either very limited in his abilities, or just overly cautious.

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A Harry Redknapp side would have been fun to watch. Shame his chance went when all the tax stuff blew up. He was probably one of the best of the english managers available and really wanted the job.

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Why would you post this? Another in a long list of shite from you.

Hendo is a fucking monster player.

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Reminds me of the youtube page that would post up videos of Gerrard after every England game and go into some ridiculous level of detail to try and show how literally everything he did was bad. Weird level of obsession.

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It is a fact that Rakitic/Modric dominated the midfield that day.

I think Erikson started well, but by the end it was like he had given up even trying. Early on he made unconventional, less obvious picks with a view to putting out a coherent side that complimented each other. As time went on he leaned far more heavily on just getting the big names in the side even after it had been shown to be an incoherent plan, and no accommodations were made to try to make it work. It was almost as if he got tired of the battering he got from the press for trying, so decided to sleep on his big contract, give the press the selections they wanted and stopped giving a shit. It’s like if you’re going to get slated and your life made hell regardless of what you do, why not just take the easy path.

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Yes, it was our attempt at copying what we thought worked in other countries. He was given the U21 job with a view of eventually promoting him to the senior role with the expectation at that time many of the players he’d led to glory at U21 level would be making up the full side.

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Yeah its weird, I remember this account;

https://twitter.com/babuyagu?

Posting similar of Henderson over and over saying he would never make it as a Klopp midfielder… They have all disappeared after he lifted the Champions League and Premier League trophies.

It’s easy to make a 90min game into a 2min game of “mistakes”, jesus Trent would have 5mins of his passes missing… It completely ignores the context and actual tactical requirement i.e. put the ball into space behind a fullback so they entire team pushes up and presses and squeezes the pitch.

Can’t remember where I read it but there was a point made that people are so freaking obsessed with highlighting someones weaknesses, rather than concentrating on their strengths… It’s such a shit way of viewing life.

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Their formation gave them a 5 man midfield. Ours, especially with the selections of Ali and Lingard alongside him, gave us a 1 man midfield.

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Second half, yeah. First half it was all England and could’ve put the game to bed. I’m hoping for similar problems to England’s (central) midfield, if Dalic keeps the 4-3-3 from WC18 and goes Brozovic, Modric and Kovacic (some rumours that he might go 4-2-3-1 instead with Vlasic in the #10 role).

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The quicker these Euro’s are over and the hype surrounding Southgate dies down the better for everyone… He was a Shit uninspiring club manager so any journalist that thinks him changing overnight into a brilliant National Team manager, is as deluded as any Everton fan that thinks Ancelotti cared about their club…

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That’s interesting, I actually like reading the babuyagu account and it seems quite reasonable when I’ve seen it. I wonder why he wrote that on Hendo?

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