Fabio "FABINHO" TAVARES: 2022/23

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There is definitely a horses for courses aspect to consider, in that Fabs is much better in the air, and that was a key requirement in the role he was asked to play. The way the high press works means the DM is often defending long balls pumped up the line and you need someone who can not just defend them, but do so convincingly enough to turn it into an attack. That part of our game has disappeared, and so we’re seeing more and more of the game being played in areas where he doesnt want to be, ones that expose the lesser parts of him.

One of the traits I have always personally valued in a DM is their refusal to be to knocked off the ball. It provides an important safety valve when you’re in possession to know you can give it them and they wont lose it, but it also means that shit like the 5th goal doesn’t happen. Casamiro has probably never lost a ball like that in his life. Fab does now does routinely. Maybe once a game

And on the ball it was the best he has been this season which says a lot with regards to his drop off

He kept the ball safe, which is an improvement of late, but when we really needed to try and cut the deficit in goals, there was nothing played forward.

Albeit Fab’s a long way from where he was, we don’t often have to deal with Real Madrid. He should be more than able to do the job he has to against the likes of Palace and Wolves.

But he hasn’t been and he has been hiding especially when teams press us, even watching against RM, our backs trusted passing to 18 year old than Fab

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Sorry but I haven’t seen the improvement that Jurgen has

I’m not really sure the boss has seen any improvement, either, but you can’t expect him to say “Fabinho’s finished. He’s utter wank these days”.

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Just worried tha he is going to continue selecting him when he makes Capt slow look fast

It’s like he’s won a competition to play football.

I don’t think it could fall much more.

Clubs can see how bad he looks.

Not a reason to start him. Love him but don’t want him anywhere the team.

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We are carrying too many midfielders who would look good if there were two other good ones alongside them.

To be honest, I half fancy myself to do a job if there were two other good ones alongside me to hide my deficiencies!

At some point we need to sign midfielders who will grab hold of it and make it happen, rather than try to squint and see what they could bring, “if there were two good ones alongside him.”

I would be ruthless this summer, not only letting midfield contract expirations go - Keita, Ox, Melo, Milner (maybe a coaching role though, as he is a top top pro). In addition to this lot, I also wouldn’t shed a tear if any of the experienced midfielders - Henderson, Thiago, Fabinho, were to depart too. I understand they won’t all go, but if we just retained Hendo as the old head in the Milner role, that would be fine by me.

So long as we are going into the market to refresh the engine room properly.

He’s valued at 70 million euros, apparently. That’s about 62 mil GBP. Presumably valued by us at that price. Of course the source for the price and the rumor that RM are interested is very far from reliable, but if someone were to offer about half that much then we should take it. After all, his value won’t go up.

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Who is?

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Why isn’t someone driving him to the airport.

If we get that then someone replaced Edwards really well :wink:

I would be very surprised if Fabinho left for anything like the number above. If he goes, I see the word “undisclosed” being used, as a bit of a face saving mechanism.

I actually think he could do a really good job in Italy. But Italian teams are notorious for not wanting to pay a fee, or much of one.

If he goes, we are not going to get a useful fee to rebuild with. But a spot will open up and the wages will be off the books.

If he stays we can hope for an upturn in form if better midfielders arrive, but in all likelihood, he will be passed by and become a squad man, on high wages, while not bringing much to the pitch.

Its not that Italian teams dont want to pay a fee, it’s that they largely cannot afford to. If they can, it is wont be for a 29 year old on a downspiral that the selling club seemingly want to get rid of.

I don’t think Fabinho’s age and bad season would be necessarily such a turn off. 29 is a young man in Italy! It’s not a bad league for such cases, players who lack a bit of pace, are on the market because they’ve been struggling, etc. Even if I don’t like these sentences where it seems like Serie A is still all defensive and slow, because it isn’t. Lucas went there and prolonged his career at that level, averaging about 40 games per season. Mourinho wanted Xhaka, ended up with Matic. Someone like Badelj is even slower than Fabinho.

But we’ll see what’s our position, then what’s the interest from the market, then what would be our financial demands (could be a sale, but maybe it could also be a loan with options) and finally what is the player’s wish also. Too many questions on all those levels right now to predict what will happen with Fabinho this summer.

I’m not saying there wont be suitors for him in Italy, I’m downplaying the expectation of it producing any sort of decent fee.