FIFA - All that’s wrong with football

I’ve been a passionate football fan for well over 50 years, but the actions of FIFA, UEFA, the FA and everyone in charge of the game have driven me to the verge of totally giving up on it and spending my time in some other, less sordid activity.
It’s an unbelievable failure on their part to destroy decades of devotion, and I don’t think I’m the only one.

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Oh no, you’re not the only one. But as I still love LFC, I’ll continue to watch our games. Unless a corrupted sheikh or oligarch takes over. That would be curtains for me. Or if we find ourselves in an oil-sheikh owned league, which isn’t out of the realms of possibility. Also, if some of our games are moved to the Middle East, I’ll quit following the club.

As I’m still in love with football - the game, not the pathetic theatrics around it - I’d look out for parcels of it which aren’t yet infested by big money and corruption: a minor team in a minor league which I can follow easily. The local team here for instance is in the third Swiss division, with an eye on getting promotion this season. That might be a start for me.

If the Saudis or Dubai take over LFC, I’ll get to the little ground in the spring, for a few uncomplicated games. :blush:

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What a shit show this is turning into. Hope none of this is forgotten when Saudi Arabia bids for 2030, but I’m not holding my breath.

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I thought it was on rotation, I suppose they say they are catching up.

Give it another 50 years none of these places will be able to host it.

If things continue as they are I think the only place by about the end of the century that will have the climate for the Olympics is San Franscisco.

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They officially gave up on rotation sometimes around giving it to Russia and Qatar. They needed the policy to justify giving the tournament to the non-traditional confederations, something that solidified the personal power of the men at the head of FIFA. But once they broke that barrier, and they realized there was more money in giving it to non-traditional powers even more often than would occur on a rotation, they dropped the rotation.

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Out of all the criticisms of this WC, having it in winter is one of the few I disagree with. It’s something that we’ll have to get used to.

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Why should we get used to it? If it was a collective decision from all the stake holders then fair enough, but it wasnt. It was a unilateral decision enforced on the major shareholders as a result of a dishonest agreement between FIFA and Qatar to do it in the summer and then when they accepted it was impossible they pretended there was no option but to move the dates, rather than move the location, all while the stake holder were complaining.

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I suspect the holders of broadcast rights who have seen a collapse in the value of league packages will be telling European club football that the lower payments is just something they will have to get used to. At some point, European club football might start telling FIFA that not being able to release players for an international schedule they have no say in is something they will have to get used to. The hockey model has to look rather appealing to the big European clubs right about now.

It would be one thing if FIFA had made any attempt to make the losers in this whole. But the reality is the gains are running overwhelmingly to countries that contribute nothing but a FIFA vote to world football, while bearing no costs.

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Not defending Qatar lying. Just suspect winter World Cups will be more common in the future as the average temp. keeps rising.

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Yeah, totally understand that. But there are so many knock on effects related to the world calendar that it would have to be a coordinated move organized by all the stake holders, led by the clubs and the braodcasters. Doing it this way, for selfish reasons, is very much worthy of crticism, if only because the lack of beliability of their original promise to deliver a summer tournament drives home the brazzen corruption of Fifa

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I think there is nothing wrong in principle with a winter tournament, but that move has consequences. FIFA has accepted no responsibility for those consequences, yet has captured all of the benefits - and in an overtly corrupt manner.

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As others have said, a winter WC isn’t the problem. Personally I don’t like it, but I’d be over it by now if it was the main issue.

FIFA’s overt corruption and hijacking of the game is the reality check here. The scary part is that unless the federations commit en-masse to leaving FIFA and creating something with a high level of accountability, it’s hardly going to get better.

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I think so too, it’s the one thing that hasn’t bothered me, I do think that was poorly planned mind, then again I don’t think Covid helped.

Ideally the season should have started mid July and the last one sometime in April.

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A pic from 2018. Three pals enjoying their time together:

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You spelt “cunts” wrong.

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I heard an interesting discussion about 2026 in the context of the Iran flag squabble (which was stupid on USSF’s part). With FIFA having established that host countries can change the terms just days before a World Cup, the US might be in a position to decide in 2026 simply to refuse some countries entry into US territory.

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A picture’s worth a thousand words.

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fixed it for you.

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