Florian Wirtz (AM) Bayer Leverkusen

Surely it’s a no for Curtis Jones. He’s a good player and Slot used him a lot as one of the four main midfielders. If anything we need to add another, a fifth option Slot will use, whether that is Bajcetic taking his chance or a new signing.

Elliott is a very good player too, and his goal just then against Brighton will do his cause no harm. He has barely featured and with rumours of Newcastle being interested, maybe others, he might be sold. I will be sad to see it if it happens, but it might be on the cards. I would be very surprised if Curtis Jones is sold.

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If nobody sees Wirtz for Elliott as an upgrade, I think we have a problem.

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I don’t think it’s so much about that. Of course Wirtz is an upgrade on Harvey. He’s likely an upgrade on Szobo too.

It’s the outlay of the massive transfer fee AND him likely needing to be one of the highest paid players in the squad from day 1 in order to convince him to not go to Bayern. There’s no such thing as a surefire hit in football. M’bappe, Neymar, Coutinho - all recent examples of players that went for over 100M and failed to live up to the hype/price after the move - though M’bappe still has a chance to come good. Still, when you’re spending that kind of money, you need to be able to be as sure as you can that it’ll work out, because if it doesn’t it can set a club back years, unless that club is Man City of course…

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It is not our money. If the transfer committee think that Wirtz is the man, then by all means go for him. Wirtz is a generational talent.

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Every transfer has an element of risk. But at the top end, it rarely goes wrong. Mbappe is the top scorer in La Laga, breaking records in the process.

Wirtz is a transformational talent. If indeed we’re going for him, it would be because we made our due diligence.

I have every confidence in our club to get it right.

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Bayern still seems most likely, but I’m glad that we are in there. Wirtz is a very good player indeed and would definitely up our game in the final third. I’m not sure if we would sign a striker in addition, or deploy Wirtz as some sort of false nine. I’m happy to leave that up to Slot :joy:

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DO NOT USE GROK.

All things aside, it’s simply shite.

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Close your eyes, stay calm, and think of Harry Maguire.

No need to shout at me like that, I just copied it because it was funny ffs

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Wirtz would be one hell of a signing,love to see it,but he probably leans toward Bayern anyway,sad in a way,but it is nice to dream!

I think the evidence actually suggests otherwise? From Wikipedia, the current 10 most expensive transfers in history are:

Of that, I’m not sure I’d say anyone outside of Fernández and Caicedo is anywhere close to being a success. And even those two are debatable.

Moving on to the next 15:

Of these, I’d say perhaps Bellingham, and maybe at a stretch Bale and Kane? 5 out of 25 isn’t exactly “rarely goes wrong”. And even so many of these are debatable, with only the Chelsea players being the gamechanger you’d want at that price. Not that they’ve done much with that either, mind you. It’s more carnage the further down you go that list.

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Coutinho’s transfer was a roaring success.

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The United transfer committee - take a bow guys what a great job you have done.

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If I remember the list correctly, this cutoff also shows them quite favourably. Pretty much all their entries in this list are…

Yeah, that thought will console me!

Then again, say the club sell Morton and Elliott for a combined sum of around 60 million pounds - I wouldn’t be against Liverpool buying Wirtz for 100 million pounds. I can’t believe I’m saying that, though… But it’s Slot’s comments about Szoboszlai’s no. 8 role (and his relative profligacy in the final third) that made me think about this. Slot wants his own De Bruyne, I guess.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know which players could be signed as alternatives in case Wirtz rejects Liverpool?

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My concerns about this signing are will we have enough left over for the other areas that need strengthening? I feel we especially need to change up top and would hate to see us relying on the same 6 next season.

I think we would have enough but that probably depends on what other targets we have in mind and how we plan to set up next season.

Its been suggested in the media we can comfortably afford spending £150m to £170m before sales.

That would probably be enough to cover Wirtz, Frimpong and Kirkez with sales covering the cost of the other signings?

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Simons, Cherki two of those rumoured to be on their way out. City going for Gibbs-White apparently.

Out Darwin and Chiesa
In Jonathan David

I’d be happy with that regardless of Wirtz coming in or not.

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Virgil van Dijk.