Former players and managers - general discussion

I love you Ray.
Crying.
RIP

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Terrible news.

As you get older the deaths of your heroā€™s when you were younger are inevitable and some hurt more than others and this one hurts badly.
Ray was the best keeper Iā€™ve ever seen in a red shirt, no argument. Alisson has a chance to be up there with him but to do that he will have to perform at the top of his game for the next decade and be instrumental in us winning trophiesā€¦to be fair he hasnā€™t made a bad start but thereā€™s still some way to go to match Clem.
Mistakes were at a premium, I remember one in the 1st leg of the European Cup semi in 1978 when he let a free-kick in late on and there was the famous one at Hampden when Kenny scoredā€¦Iā€™ll bet Kenny never let him live that down! But they were few and far between. Ray could have virtually nothing to do for 89 minutes and then pull off a world-class save to help win the game.
It rankled with me that Shilton won more England caps. In my opinion Ray was the better keeper because he wasnā€™t scared to come out and risk injury diving at the opposition strikerā€™s feet, something I thought Shilton was reluctant to do. He just had everything.
The reception he got from the Kop on his first return to Anfield will live forever in the memory of those fortunate to be there. I doubt any ex-Red has had anything like it before or since, a testament to how highly regarded Ray was by the Liverpool faithful.
RIP Clem, the greatest of them all.

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Was that the Spurs game @jaffod? I couldnā€™t remember the year the one I was on the Kop for, but he got an incredible reception that day.

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The video in my last post is the one where Ray is playing for Spurs and goes to Annfield for the first time and gets an ovation from the Anfield crowd.

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It was his first time back, end of the 1981-82 season. We needed to win to clinch the title and were 1-0 down at half-time (Hoddle wondergoal). Ray got his amazing reception before normal order was restored, 3-1 and another title in the bag.

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He was also the Spurs keeper the day they beat us with the Garth Crooks goal. I was on the Kop that day too and, yes, he did get a great reception.

This is very sad news although not unexpected. Simply the best goalkeeper we have ever had.

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I have these images in my mind of Ray in motion.
He had that habit of his of never ever turning his back on play after heā€™d cleared the ball from the box. His running backwards with those high elbows and his chin pointing slightly upwards, proud and secure in his abilities. Attention to detail and phenomenal concentration levels at all times. That uncannily good positioning of his on the edge of the six yard box, and the speed at which he collected the ball and kicked upfield under much more pressure from forwards than modern goalies have to deal with.
All these images donā€™t even begin to do the man justice, but they kind of sum up the footballer.
RIP big guy.

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What an iconic picture.

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Masch has retired:

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Another player I wish had stayed at Anfield.

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His face always looked like he was up to something a bit sneaky,always liked Mascha.

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Oh @Maria :disappointed_relieved:
It hurts so much

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Signing Masch - along with some Spanish striker who ended up at Fulham or something - really revived my interest in football after a couple years of ennui following the over-stimulation of Istanbul.

Love his goal vs Reading, where he surprised everyone in the stadium, not least himself.
Love him gobbing off at Ferguson after the red card at the shithole.
Love him dedicating his 2011 CL final win over the scum to us.

In short, I love the absolute little shit. Happy retirement, Monster.

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:cry:

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This is brilliant.

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Anyone remember Frode Kippe signed by Houlier? he still playing at 42 years of age.

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Well, he canā€™t have lost his pace.

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His place? :smiley:

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I loved his focus on making sure the player enjoy the work. It is a sad reality that many players at level reach a place where they forget the last time they thought of football as fun.

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