I think he’s now one of our main midfielders to stay. 4 or 5 for 3 roles plus a few back up options.
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He was great for 65 minutes or so but then his performance dropped. 100% sure i saw him limping towards the end.
Harvey deserved to start but actually Diogo and Kostas did too.
Starting Bobby and Robbo who was far from 100% meant Klopp wasn’t able to bring on Naby or Ox for Harvey. But we needed somebody who could make something happen through the middle.
Klopp got it wrong there.
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He got a bit of wack defending on the edge of our box and was jumping about a bit (like you do when you stub your toe on the edge of your bed) immediately after. Looked like a sore one, but one you run off.
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How good is this lad? Pity he shinned his chance today but he was generally excellent.
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You see a player even when he makes mistakes.
I’m dead excited about him. I love his fearlessness. Looks more and more one of those legendary “Klopp types”.
On that note, really glad he’s here; you know he’d slip through the cracks at certain other clubs.
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Massive show of faith being thrown straight in the deep end, picked over the likes of Keita and Thiago against the current European champions and didn’t look out of place at all! I thought he performed better than both Fab and Hendo and was probably the best midfielder on the park yesterday (on performance not reputation). You can see when our senior players are actively looking to give him the ball how much trust and confidence they have in his ability. He has that X factor about him. Super exciting player.
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Would have been great to see that volley he had fly in but he fluffed his lines.
Never mind.
I think he needs to be more confident - in the second half he was in a better position to shoot or dribble into the box but instead seemed to want to pass to Mo who was in a far worse position.
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theres a point in a career that you go from young talent to first team regular…
to do that you need a manager to play you through a few tough moments.
what youve explained is pretty reasonable…it just needs to be spun a different way…as in, Harvey needs to play through these challenging moments.
its great that Kloppo has that bigger picture in mind…
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Anyone not realising there is a bigger picture in play regarding Elliot playing the 90mins only has to look at the kids stats from yesterdays game…
It may not have looked like, but he covered more ground than any other player from either side… as in a young Millie type of stats…!
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These are impressive stats to be fair. Not bad for a fresh squad member… had any new expensive signing had that sort of stats, we’d all be excited beyond anything… 
Maybe someone should have a quiet talk with the MOTD pundits who accuse us of not doing anything in the transfer market… 
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Err they’re still mostly right. Least active Premier League club on incomings in the market.
Improving the squad, with most managers, is about 70% incoming transfers, 15% development of players and 15% promotions of youth talent with potential (whether it works out long term or not).
Klopp is amazing as he probably only relies about 30% on incoming transfers, 40% development of players and 30% promotions of youth talent.
But as great as Klopp has been getting unbelievable levels out of guys like Salah and Robertson and helping Trent become the best right back in the world LFC still doesn’t win CL and PL without also sometimes spending on the likes of Alisson, VvD and Fabinho.
It’s worrying that the narrative being put out by the club on media and taken up on social media is that we don’t have to and shouldn’t spend.
It serves one party. It limits what Klopp can win with us and will limit what top players can achieve in their careers. It also makes us increasingly reliant on the magic recruitment of Edwards and miraculous improvements of players Klopp can bring in training.
Mark Twain — ‘Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.’
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Except he didn’t actually say it.
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Still, it’s a good saying 
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When we spent on Alisson/v.Dijk/Fabinho we, by definition, did not have them in the squad. I think that makes it nearly impossible to use those signings as an example / comparison with our current situation.
How do you reconcile this with the apparent reality that the approach to squad building is in fact chiefly led by Klopp himself? Do you sign players over your manager’s objections?
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I think by now it should be clear that many of those still banging on the we-need-to-sign-someone-anyone drum isn’t going to care about such logic, or the fact that Jürgen himself believes enough in the squad he has.
It’s easier to believe such things as the club insisting on Elliott being played over the manager’s preferences so as to prove a point.
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I read two reports over the weekend who explicitly referred to Elliott’s selection as a case of Liverpool having to rely on a kid, rather than it being with the sort of breathless expectation you see when other clubs pick a highly touted kid like Foden or Wilshire for a big game.
This was not a case of being bare bones and picking the next best kid in line. It was a case of having almost a full compliment available and the 18 year old elevating himself above the rest. It’s such a sad indictment of the misaligned focus of football coverage that buying players is more important than winning stuff.
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Klopp has given several indicators over the last year that it isn’t him having final say and its not exactly something he’s ecstatically happy about.
Nobody is banging on a “sign anyone” drum. We’ve got fantastic player identification processes we want someone who has been identified.
Jurgen doesn’t believe that he’s hinted several times he would still welcome strengthening if it could be done but made references to resources.
Most if not all people are happy with Elliott earning his way into starts in creative midfield where (currently as none of them except Jones have been injured) we have good numbers and quality in depth.
Well no shit. Perhaps it might come as a surprise to some, but at this point, I doubt we’re going to be signing anyone unless they’re an absolute steal (see Robertson), or a player who can come in and be better than everyone else (see Virgil). The former category seems to be rather dry this window, while the latter category is likely where we have looked at things, and decided that there is no value in the market unless we can get one of our first choices, which is where limited resources may come in.
We joke a lot about Mbappe and all, but I could genuinely imagine that if he was available for a more rational price considering his contract status, then we would have signed him already. Otherwise, there’s no point spending extra money for players who wouldn’t even make it to the bench anyway.
This is what annoys me the most. If the manager doesn’t think the player has the requisite quality he’s not afraid to shed them. Look at Moreno for instance. If we aren’t doing anything, it means that this is the plan, and given the fact that we’re not bankrolled by a sportwashing piece of shit regime, that’s ought to be expected that we actually have budgetary constraints. Perhaps we should have taken a leaf out of Chelsea’s books and had more of a talent churning machine to generate revenue, but considering where we can improve our squad, there’s not much room left.
We don’t sign players for the short term, that’s been amply proven by now. Any such signings have been loans, like Caulker and Kabak. Even with Davies we didn’t give them the option to buy, which suggests that we do definitely see a future for him here.
Take for example Saul. I’m sure many people were jerking off over him, especially with that whopping price tag. If there was any real interest in him before, I’m sure it has evaporated now considering how Elliott has performed thus far. But that is the level of expense we are likely to face if we want someone who could materially improve our team.
Of course there’s always something that can be done, but at some point the value just isn’t there anymore. Jürgen himself had to be persuaded that signing Virgil was worth it. Of course it’s a beautiful thing in hindsight, but he could have turned out to be a Maguire. Good, but just not the world-beater that he is today that fully justifies the price tag. Look at Alisson versus Kepa for another example. Our days of wheeling and dealing Rafa-style are over, precisely because we now have the financial power that we don’t have to rely on making profits on players to fund our transfer activity, and we actually have the identification team to look at a situation, and determine if we can find someone in the market who provides what we need at the right value. That nothing has happened thus far can only point towards the fact that we don’t have any targets who are not ridiculously expensive for what they are.
Given all that we know about the manager, anything snarky he says about resources is more than likely to be a snide remark about the complete absurdity of the situation that is the fossil fuel funded clubs. He has only ever made negative comments about such an unlimited budget.
I’d rather be a fan of the club that has made a conscious decision to give Harvey Elliott game time, than to bring in overpriced and overrated trash for hundreds of millions. I’d rather not be a fan of a club that spends £52m on a fullback only to have to suspend him.
On the other hand, you have constantly been banging on about transfers, no matter which thread you’re in, and wilfully misunderstanding the financial situation about the club just to justify your personal opinion that we need to spend spend spend.
I’d rather have the pleasure of watching a young talented player blossom into a good, or even great player. I’d rather have Curtis Jones, and Harvey Elliott, two young midfielders who quite clearly love the club and are fans, get the opportunity to develop and learn from the best here, than bring in ostentatious transfers.
Harvey Elliott may not be a world-beater in future, but seeing his development is infinitely more satisfying and heartwarming than bringing in more established players who would have to compete for the same slot anyway.
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