The majority might not sing about Hillsborough (though it’s probably more than you think), but the majority of their matchgoing support will quite happily point score about Heysel.
Fuck them.
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If it’s more than one, then it’s ‘they’. Maybe you’ve never been in the Anfield Road end, for a derby game? I have, many times and it’s not pleasant, hearing the taunts about Hillsborough and Heysel. So, as someone else said, ‘Fuck them’.
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Presumably Heysel is the source of the current bitterness? If not for the sanctions that followed, they would have been playing in the European cup after winning the league. They missed out on this and the money/exposure it brought.
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Not quite; in the immediate aftermath of Heysel, there was still solidarity between the blue and red halves of the city, as amply demonstrated in the two FA Cup finals, especially as the city was united in its hatred of the Tories.
It’s only when Sky started and started whipping up rivalry that the cracks started to appear and it’s got progressively worse over the last thirty years.
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Just saying… But the Bitterness spilling out of the Blueshite fans has finally got another target other than LFC, this being in the rotund fat head shape of Ancelotti…
Don’t be surprised if they haunt him for years and every single holiday he takes from here on in… he would be wise to take some security guys with him… As they say, wherever you go in the world you will meet a scouser… law of averages that some of these Scousers are Blushite devotee’s!
Fuck em… Shit Club Shit Fanbase Attitude
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I’ll not pretend to understand the situation better than you Liverpool lads, so I’ll rest my case at this point. But I have difficulty to believe that a majority of Everton fans would approve chants about Hillsborough or Heysel, just as a majority of us don’t approve chants about the Munich disaster for instance.
But as said, you lads must know better, so I’ll keep 
from now on.
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I couldn’t understand that at first either until I went to an Everton Forum to have a look myself.
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Yes, the bitterness must be a recent phenomenon.
I remember their Chairman delivering a very passionate speech on Hillsborough. That was probably 20 years ago.
A reason why I couldn’t bring myself to dislike them as much as the Manchester Scums.
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There’s a difference between the people who occupy their boardroom and the rabid morons in the Gwladys Street end.
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I can’t go anywhere near their forums, my blood pressure rises rapidly.
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I don’t particularly remember it being bad at school and I was brought up on merseyside, friendly jibes when one team won and the other.
A few years later (probably 6-8 years as I was dating someone during the year we won the CL from the Wirral) I unluckily got the train back to Southport at the time Everton fans got on, they must have won because they were in high spirits and I came across someone I knew from school and he told me to stay silent on what club you support as it won’t go down well, so we pretended I supported Preston, the bile coming from them about us in discussions was horrible.
So yeah it must have been around the late 90s- early 00s, I have a feeling it probably came about when we started to look good again under Houllier.
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I get the sentiment, but that was as much for themselves as it was for us as a club. The 96 were Liverpool fans, but most if not all of them were the kids, the cousins, the neighbors of Everton fans. It was a deeply personal thing for them even though it wasn’t their club. The intermingling between the 2 clubs of families and people who lived on the same streets meant it was an incident that affected the entire city, not just us.
That is what made the derby so special, and I think part of the animosity in the city now is because with Everton losing its seat at the top table (before Wenger they were the country’s second most successful club) being an Everton fan has become far more a closed shop than it used to be.
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Actually, for those who still live int he city, do you see evidence of this? I stated it as an assumption backed up on only a small amount of evidence, so I’m wondering if others see a shift within the city towards Liverpool over the past 20-25 years or so.
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Oof. Some real gems in there, though.
’ Zidane leaving Madrid, big Jurgs taking over 
Bonjour Lurkers’
Then this pearler
’ > expand…
TBH I feel the same way, in some ways my hatred for the RS is greater than my love for Everton now.’
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But I ask myself, if people are nostalgic for those times, because they sound better also to me, then what purpose does it really serve to throw that much shit at them like is regularly done here in this thread in the long run. Because I suppose they are probably very, yes bitter, about what Liverpool fans say about them and so on but perhaps I am overthinking everything.
But yeah, I think it would be much more cool if there was a more respectful rivalry, despite everything. I don’t really like the venom that much on either side to be honest.
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Southgate being considered for the Blueshite job after the Euros…
Everton MMA FC are quite impressed with him the way he went about injuring Trent.!
They told him once he has done Jordan in, the job is his for the taking…
Apparently he is just the type of manager they have been looking for…
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Oh my that would be funny.
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Too good to be true.
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I actually signed up for WSAG to have a bit of a laugh when the opportunity presented itself (which is more or less all the time, let’s be honest) but I got sussed out pretty quickly.
The thing is, any deviation from the collective mindset, no matter how small, and they’re all over it. You don’t have to post anything particularly provocative to be outed, something as simple as criticising the manc clubs is enough. They’re sensitive to it, probably because most of them have cosied up to the mancs so much recently they have more or less become mancs themselves. Shameful really.
There is no balance at all. Klopp is a horrible cunt who juices up his players. All our players are cheats. All our players are dirty snides. We are constantly benefitting from VAR. All referees are instructed to make sure we succeed.
All these things are treated as fact and it makes no difference how much evidence there is to the contrary. No argument is put forward, nobody breaks ranks to offer an alternative opinion backed up by the actual facts, if anyone did it wouldn’t be tolerated.
Their heads have completely gone.
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You’re a better man than me, subjecting yourself to that. They’re like some sort of weird religious sect, only more nasty.
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