Maybe the selling club are then duty bound to inform any other parties that have registered an interest also
By definition the clauses require an up front payment. Even rich clubs dont like doing that and typically have to find external funding to raise the capital to pay it. If a release clause is 70m and we offer someone a deal worth in total 70m but structured with payments over 3-4 years then we wont have hit the release clause. Go back several years to when Utd were trying to buy Herrera from Bilbao and it was their inability to understand this (or possibly not believe that Bilbao were legit when they said “pay the clause or fuck off”) that saw them waste a whole window trying and failing to land him only to go back next time and pay the clause.
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Any ridiculous fee paid for Fernandez will impact the price for a better player like Jude.
Two united fans on another fourm
“I still can’t understand why many LFC fans (I’m not saying on here) on social media and LFC journals are adamant that Bellingham is going there. They are one of at least 6 clubs who will be in for him, though they are the only club that have openly made clear that he is their number one target - which to me is just a ridiculous thing to do as it seriously weakens their negotiating position.”
“If Bellingham did go to Liverpool (or even if he doesn’t) I think the myth of Klopp is being shattered. Just like any other top manager at a big club he simply spends money for fun to plug gaps.”
Klopp
Be far less of a myth than the Glazers have been starving Man Utd of funds.
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I get all that, thanks. If there is a release clause, it is usually paid in one lump sum.
I suppose what I am saying is, how does knowledge of the release clause come out? There were posts above saying that it is a secretive thing.
Presumably the agent will leak information about a release clause, as it is in the interest of his client for prospective future employers to know what’s what.
But if the agent is legally bound to keep quiet, how does knowledge of the release clause come out?
Only when a buying club makes the offer? And then they stumble onto the magic number? And then at that point the selling club has to tell them they bid the correct amount?
And then yes, of course the terms of payment would be up front.
It all seems like a silly guessing game. The agent should be able to tell interested parties what’s what.
Depends. Sometimes the selling club will say what it is to get the buyer to put up or walk away. Other times it has been leaked by the player to team mates while on International duty. Other times the agent probably tells people.
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Thank you.
So if Bellingham does indeed have a release clause, we will likely know about it.
That’s as I would expect, as it seems silly to me to be shuffling around in the dark, not knowing if we need to pay 60/70/80 million or whatever, to meet the release clause.
In Spain it’s a legal requirement. Possibly Portugal as well and that lends itself to greater public knowledge of what that is.
Us yes. The public less so and it typically stays that way unless someone is incentivized to disclose it.
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Thank you. I’m much more at ease with the concept now.
As I said, in Spain it is a legal requirement. You are right that there it is technically a buy out clause that the player has to pay, but in practice it works the same way just with additional fees that need to be paid by the buying club to cover the increased income tax payment the player will face from receiving a lump sum payment in the 10s of millions to fund his activation of it.
The issue with Barca and Neymar was they argued that if he was going to activate his clause he had to payback the signing on fee they paid him when he extended his contract just the season before. That is an extension of the loyalty bonus issue we see here all the time that can be forfeited depending on how a player manages his exit from the club.
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I do wonder whether, if the agent leaked a release clause, whether he needs permission to or not, and whether there are any repercussions to doing so?
Or is it the same a club approaching a player’s agent before approaching the player’s club to get permission to speak to them: it’s ungentlemanly, but everyone is doing it and there doesn’t appear to be a single damned thing the owning club can do?
I would imagine yes but there is probably little the selling club can do in practice - and if they get a significantly larger fee through it, are probably not to bothered by it becoming public.
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Yes, i meant to say this too.
Who is reporting the bullshit of Bellingham having a release clause in his contract ?
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But kopstar had left before you joined.
What happened to Kopstar?
Like all bright stars he burnt out.
Did someone ask him when the transfer season starts 
He fell out with some posters and quit??