Been there more than a few times. Most drastic was going from ~100 to 86 then gaining it all back and going from 130 to 100 then gaining most of it back.
It’s not all bad news though. After losing weight his time I’ve found it easier to keep it off. Even after having a bad week or two, where I might have eaten a bit more than I should have or traveled a lot and didn’t get as much exercise as I would have, just going back to my regular routine sees my weight go back to it’s new “normal”. I don’t even really do anything more to make up for the one/two bad week. Re-adjusted metabolic rate perhaps?
I’ve cut down on weight training and trying to do more cardio. Looking at following the garmin training plans but they ask for 5 days a week running. Not there with that and not sure I’ll ever be.
Lots of treadmill runs this Winter I think trying to build it all up. A bit apprehensive and excited of what the long runs, threshold runs and peak runs will be.
After about 18 months I can now actually run round a 5 a side pitch for 2 hours. 2 broken feet haven’t helped but I’m now lighter, stronger, trimmer and loving football. Sod the gym, go play football. After all, that’s why we’re here.
No choice really. I’d be far happier surfing, kite surfing every day but the winds and waves dont play ball every day and fitting it round work in Winter is also difficult so I’m left to 6am workouts with the odd one after work maybe. And with my kidney issues, rest is equally important to the actual work. Frustrating as fuck.
So I’ve been going a nuts lately. My weight had creeped up after having trouble with my blood results and having to get that under control again.
Tweaked my training such that the weight training is heavily leaning towards getting good recovery but I’ve been hammering the treadmill building a solid foundation and targeting heart rate zones as a training method.
All feeling good. Today was long run day with 13.4km (over 8.3 miles) done in 1.5 hours. I’m not fast but I get there, plus I find treadmill distances off.
I’m really feeling the benefit of this method. A little diet tweak and I should get that back down.
Dont need gyms, treadmills or any other forms of activity these days.
My Garmin watch has been in the cupboard for weeks now, thats how much of a fuck I give for how many steps I’m doing.
Since going back on the tools, I’m tired but loving the activity of work, looking forward to wearing less layers though.
Anyone tried the Weight Loss injections? My 2 cousins have been taken them for few months - as of April so bit longer now.
1st cousin - female - She was a real active girl - played sports etc but all that stopped when she become a teacher. She got married (to a dick) had a kid and started suffering depression. She lost her washboard stomach and ballooned up. Been on the injections about 3 months and lost 3 stone - that was last update I had early April.
2nd Cousin - City boy put on a shit ton of weight with business lunches and drinking on nights out. As of April had been on them for 3 months and lost nearly 3 stone.
So these things do work. I guess its what happens when you come off them. I was thinking it could work if you took them to lose the weight you wanted, come off them and see how you go and try to continue. Some people just cannot stop craving food so some will need forever.
Similar to yourself. My partners sister is or has been taking them. By all accounts you jyst dont want food while on them.
Cost is also a factor. They aren’t cheap.
Personally, I kind of see these as a cheat. By far the biggest challenge is getting your head in the right place to make the necessary changes and equally important, sticking to it. I feel these are a bit if a cheat on that side but I also appreciate that in some instances they could be really beneficial.
They are £149 for a months worth. I do see them as a cheat but sometimes you need a kickstart (but codes are out there to get 25% off first order.
Im watching some guy on youtubes journey. Got from 20st to 15st in 6 months. He said you have to eat as you have to fuel your body but eat high protein stuff and youll be fine and wont need a lot
What happens when you reach your goal weight and stop dieting?
The biological control mechanisms that regulate appetite and eating behavior are complicated and are generally geared towards eating too much. This is not 100% determinative but something you have to fight your body to overcome. For the majority of people who struggle with weight those dials are turned even further in that direction that make just expecting people to follow the normal weight management advice is not realistic. What these drugs do is turn those dials down in a way that people can finally successfully follow healthy weight lifestyle practices. There is some thought that over time the dials might be turned down enough that coming off the drugs might be manageable, but there is more of a best case scenario that an expectation, and even then we’re talking a long period of time.
Well i was an active footballer - 4 times a week. Nearly broke my knee in 2004 and have had 5 ops since.
I ballooned to 18.7 stone in 2009 so went to Weight Watchers (As I previously did in 1996 when I lost 2.5 stone) and lost 4 stone in 18 months.
Trouble is whenever you do something like this it always goes back on the moment you decide youre now done with it.
For me lockdown was the killer - i put a load of weight back on due to WFH and due to now being 50 weight is so hard to shift.
Ive crept back up to 17.4 stone but this time as I go to the gym (couple times a week) I carry it a lot better but the weight gain causes issues with my knee - i really need a replacement but too young.
So im trying Maunjaro. They turned up yesterday and are in the fridge. I would start today but my band have a little gig at pub and I dont want to take it and if i feel sicky then have to go and play.
The guy on Youtube recomends taking it before bed and that way you sleep off any potential sickness. If I have a beer tonight then I will start tomorrow night.
Ill let you know how it goes. I just want to get down to 14 stone again. I will then try and come off and see how it goes but seeing as Ive always gone up and down it will be interesting to see how this works.
If you have a medical condition, you need to find ways to fix it, if for some people it’s that, then why not. (For some obese people whose life is at risk due to their condition, it’s a no brainer)
I remember my potato diet, and what was most useful was resetting my baseline in terms of food intake. It wasn’t enough in itself, but it made me feel differently. To keep it, I still needed to watch myself and develop healthier habits.
Obviously it’s never going to be a panacea, no drug or method is. And it can also be problematic, for example you can read about people who were previously anorexic relapsing because of these drugs.
My issue is eating out of being bored - i pick - i have a very boring job so always feel hungry but I’m not - by time I know it I’ve eaten sweets and spent all day picking.
Also im a binge drinker - invite me out for a beer and ill have 8-10 pints with ease - i wont drink for another week but if you invited me out the following Friday I would do the same - thats a lot of beer a month.
Yeah its what this blokes stresses on YouTube - you have to eat as your body needs fuel (plus drink water water water!)
You wont be able to eat as much so make sure its loaded with protein.
Yeah it’s interesting as there are different paths to finding yourself needing to lose weight and you can see these GLP1 drugs having different applications to them.
For lots of people, this is a lifetime battle. The compulsion to snack is described as like a voice in your head you cannot turn off, and that is exactly what these drugs are described as doing for these patients. It’s like they turn off the noise in their brain that allows them to just do normal things instead of trying to do things while battling with a voice saying “but not before a little snacky snack.”
But for lots of people they have periods in their life where they are able to maintain a healthy weight without too much issue, but then a change in environment or circumstances puts them in a situation where they can no longer manage. I am someone who has always been able to manage the impulses by managing my environment - I have worked from home for years and rarely buy junk/snacks from the supermarket and so dont have much in the house to break a healthy diet. But Mrs Limie is a proper snack monster so her moving in has completely changed that. There was a period of about 18 months prior to Covid where I was going back into an office 4 days a week and I was overwhelmed by the communal aspect of sharing junk food. Birthdays, pot lucks, someone bringing in some goodies just because.
Someone who has struggled shutting out that “noise” all their life would probably need to be on these drugs forever. Someone whose weight struggles have been situational may be able to use them as the sort of kick start you describe to help them get through a period where their environment and lifestyle habits are otherwise difficult to manage in a healthy way, and then come off them once they’ve restored that control
The problem is these habits are started and in grained from when your young.
Convenience food is a flu.
These drugs are a cheat they cheat the body (in this case metabolism). They are hormones hence agonists. Often coming off them can be complicated.
These drugs were developed for type 2 diabetics and from what I gather are successful.
Fortunately l don’t suffer from overweight. Never eaten between meals except to have an energy boost during extensive exertion. However I sympathise with those who do have weight problems they don’t seem to be able to help themselves.
I have some health conscious colleagues. They have ‘diet’ foods at lunch, and some even do regular exercises. They also eat biriyani, burger, etc. whenever they can, not to mention the regularly smocking and the occasional drinking.
My vice is smoking. I wonder how much that affected my eating habits. When I’m bored I smoke more.
When I was laid up with a broken back I don’t know how I would have coped without my tobacco!
I remember when my kids were young the fridge was stocked with yougart and fruit. If they said they were hungry I tell them to get something from the fridge. It was amazing how suddenly thier hunger disappeared. Their friends and cousins always went straight to the fridge when they came over as soon as they saw yougart and fruit they started complaining of being hungry. I offered them what was in the fridge and they complained even more of being hungry.
It’s helpful to offer a drink before food. Often that’s enough if they are/were feeling hungry and not just wanting something full of sugar, fat or both. If after drinking they still complained of hunger I would make the effort to offer a yougart or fruit again.
Otherwise it was just regular meals.
