I think the tax rates in Germany are much less than the tax rates in UK. Especially for persons in the high wage group. Maybe @Bekloppt can give a better idea on that.
Certainly the likes of Mane , Kane did get substantial wage increases when they went to Bayern. And Diaz would be someone of that prestige type of signing. I suspect Bayern with their cash reserves can stretch their wages to offer the likes of Diaz a good deal.
Mane for instance was reportedly on a wage of 250k a week at Bayern. I’m not sure how much he was on in Liverpool. But the taxes then come into play.
It’s 45% if you are receiving footballer wages, but I don’t know how much they get in the way of deductibles.
Cheers, then the last big payday contract nakes sense.
I’d prefer him not to go, especially since the loss of Jota. With Nunez also potentially leaving that’s quite a turnover in playing staff in the forward line.
Increased risk basically.
We really hold all the cards with him as well. He is under contract for two years and, by all accounts, isn’t on stratospheric wages. The only way he could increase that with us is to get an extended contract, but I suspect that the club would only do that on a similar package. He isn’t surplus to requirements (i.e. we would have to replace him) so any transfer fee is going to have to acknowledge that we would need to enter the transfer market at premium fees.
I don’t begrudge him wanting a fat contract. But if he does leave, we would have to be properly compensated for it, and that means that we don’t lose out on a “cost to change” basis.
Nobody is denying he said he wants to leave. Its the notion which is getting peddled that he will become disruptive is the one which is getting called bollocks.
140k is hardly peanuts
It isn’t Salah, either.
So what not every footballer is paid the same.
If his father has said this I wouldn’t really trust whether the contract is true, also who promised him the contract, Klopp? the guys previous to Hughes?
The problem with this is hes now contradicting himself, I don’t doubt he has a connection with Diaz and so on. My point is we are getting one side and its gone from he wants to leave, to he wants a new contract or wants to leave.
The club again holds all the cards, he signed a contract and thats how football works.
There’s enough noise to suggest that he wants to leave if doesn’t get a new contract. Tbf the age 28 contract is probably the most important of their careers. However, if he doesn’t get his way I think he’d still perform for us. He’s never given any indication that he’s the type to down tools. And he can still win the PL and CL here. It’s not like he’s being forced to play for United
Well that is the point. As a club, we want a good footballer on lower wages, not a useless one on a fortune. We have had a fair few players where we have had to run contracts down because they were not performing and there was no way anyone else would match their contract on the same wages.
Clearly, Diaz thinks he could be paid more elsewhere. He’s probably right.
Everyone is concentrating on him, but what about the club?
Are we really not offering anything? It seems unlikely, but if so, what?
We also have to be aware of how this might affect future negotiations and purchases.
Diaz was definitely a big part of our league win, so why wouldn’t we offer him a rise? Or is it about the length of the contract?
There’s a lot we don’t know about the situation from the other side.
He’ll be 31 by the time his current contract runs out. Today one of the most valuable thing he offers us the ability for us to put saddle on him and ride him into the ground game after game. At 32 that is unlikely to still be there for us, certainly not at 33 or beyond. So you can see us not being interested in more than a year extension and him reasonably wanting something with longer terms. his team will know our perspective and we’ll have some sense of how he has responded to that. we’re not going to waste time right now with everything else going on putting together something we know he has no interest in signing. If the story that we’ve promised him something is true it’s is likely a case of telling him that we want to give him something but given how far apart we re going to wait until we’re done with the summer work that needs to be done before sitting down. And under those circumstances he is incentivized to go and shake some branches to see what else is out there he can use as a bargaining chip
No one is saying he will become disruptive, only that if he did there would be a consideration about whether it’s a good idea to hold onto him all the same.
I reckon we’d all be happy if he stayed and was entirely committed to the cause. But given it now appears he wants to leave and we have offers being made for him it’s entirely fair to wonder how that might affect him and how hard he might push to make a deal happen if we keep knocking back bids.
I highly doubt he goes full Coutinho mode but if he’s made it clear to the club he wants to leave and we keep saying no then there’s two courses of action he could take and one of those is that he agitates more publicly to get the move he wants.
Yeah these Bayern pricks need to be told it’s 80m (or whatever) within 5 days or fuck off until next summer. Makes it clear all round whether he really is ‘wanted’ and then either he moves on or we do.
We really do hold all the cards here.
2 years left, World Cup Year. Lucho didn’t exactly do himself any favors in terms of timing.
45% in UK ? Or in Germany ?
