Carra would still get in alongside Virgil in my team, not even a hard choice. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves and is too radically presented as an untalented hoofer and nothing else. Hyypia and Agger as backups. Carra would also be a better partner stylistically (optional, if we want to really make a functional team, though we don’t have to) for Virgil than the other two.
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Matip played 9 league games in our PL title season.
Ultimately it’s all about opinions, but for me Sami was our best CB of recent times until the day VVD arrived.
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Bet he was exceptional in 8 of them. At least. 
100% agree - Hyypia was immense
Ah, the Dr Seuss rhyme for blanket that didn’t make it into There’s a Wocket in My Pocket
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Klopp actually rated him.
I’d still rate Matip very highly… Even before vvds injury , matip when fit was quite often our best defender.
It would be a tossup between hyppia and matip for me too though.
I love Sami as a player and man, but he is no where near Matip. He was great in the side at the time, but he is limited and thus limited the way the side could play with him in it. Think John Terry looking like he was done under AVB and then returning to top form once they went back to a more conservative approach after he left.
wont have a bad word against Suarez,
we all knew he had a dark side,
we all loved him when he played for us and his dark side was forgiven,
love the guy, he’s a born winner even when others dont believe
take that goal against Chelsea, when he was the only 1 who celebrated his goal,
only Suarez believed liverpool could get something from the game,
that why he celebrated like he did
It was an absolute honour watching this guy play for us
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No. The reason he celebrated alone is because he pissed off his team mates in the dressing room at half time by slagging off one of his team, Joe Allen I believe, not because he was the only one who believed they could get something. Gerrard and Carragher were in the team that day.
Suarez is one if the best platers I have seen in a Liverpool shirt. He was exceptional.
But the die was cast for him when Ferguson branded him a diver, that made up the media narrative for him. His behaviour was stupid and reprehensible at times, but he did more good than harm whilst he was here.
The Evra thing was badly handled all over, by the club and by the authorities.
Terry the England captain got much less punishment than Suarez the diving cheating South American, for the same crime.
But that was in no small part due to Fergusons manipulation of the Murdoch press.
As Liverpool or indeed any supporters we can be fickle.
Last season half the team were useless and needed shipping out, now the same players are the best thing since King Kenny! That’s because we are fickle…
I despair when we look back on a genius like Suarez with contempt, whilst in the same breath laud players not fit to lace his boots.
He was a littke bollox, but he was a magnificent footballer.
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Nice team. I’d probably have Hamann or Masch ahead of Henderson.
John Aldridge on Luis Suarez "This is a player where we all stuck in his corner when the world was going against him. The club stuck by him and the fans stuck by him. Then he spat it all back in their face.
“I think the fans were quite correct to boo him last week.”
Harsh by Aldridge.
When Suarez steps on the pitch he does almost everything to win - even if he has to cross some lines sometimes. That’s how he always was. We used to love him for most of that stuff.
I am sure a part of him enjoys being booed but he doesn’t want to disrespect anything that has to do with this club.
Kenny, Stevie and Jordan have not lost the love and respect they have for Luis so it’s irrelevant what Aldo thinks here.
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Pretty spot on for me. There’s a way to behave and be respectful to a previous club. Suarez hasn’t done that with us.
I think there is reason to be angry for him wanting to leave in the summer of 2013 given the support he had received, but he was talked back around and by all accounts it wasn’t too difficult a thing to convince him of.
I don’t get the angst about him leaving when he did though. I remember viewing the entire 13-14 season as his last hurrah. There was no definitive reporting from what I remember, but what there was enough from various sources that meant I had no expectation of him being here for the start of the 14-15 season and so just enjoyed it for what it was. The fact we managed that transition so badly is not on Luis.
If there is reason to be pissy with him now, it’s his conduct in that first leg. You’re always going to get a lot of that with him that we probably should expect. Where it crossed a line was the danger he put our players in with a couple of his actions. I would expect nothing more from Luis for him to try his hardest to win a game, even against us. Trying to hurt our players is a line that once crossed can never be forgiven.
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This. That’s why I would refuse to give him any kind of warm welcome.
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Luis was one of the greatest players I watched playing. Easily above Gerrard imo in terms of talent and willingness to win, and that’s saying something.
In terms of loyalty, it’s something else of course. Luis is a mercenary soldier. He fights for who pays him best in money and trophies. But that’s not a reason for me to dislike him. On the contrary, I’m grateful for the joy he gave us during a quite unsuccessful spell in our club’s history, to say the least.
He’d really have deserved to play in a better team than the one he had to. I understand him 100% for moving on to better things at the time when he did it.
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Only thing about his departure for me was a doubt over the whole bite and timing of it. It looked like we’d agreed he could move on and we were setting plans for after he did (us fucking them up isn’t on him) but with it being a bit of a bidding war it seemed like Real Madrid were going to be able to out bid Barca and he wanted Barca for family reasons. Then the bite and Barca got him on a “discount” after Real walked away. I may be being cynical but that bite got him exactly what he wanted.
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I just remember at the time I was almost glad to see him go for all the baggage he had. I think in my younger and naive mind I figured we’d get a load of money from him, invest in the squad with newfound CL football, and go again (hilarious in hindsight). Not sure if it was just shitty recruitment or the fact that top players didn’t fancy working with Brendan like they did with Jurgen (or a combination of both), but obviously the summer was a bust.
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