Luis Suarez (Luis Alberto Suarez)

I think in the near term it was a bust, but in the longer term, we got Can, Lallana, Lovren, Moreno, and Origi. I’d say they were influential for Jürgen’s initial seasons at least.

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I’ll concede that the uncertainty over his impending ban made the transition planning harder to figure out, but if you’re concerned about getting a lower fee for him than expected and needing to figure out how that impacts your search for a replacement striker, all the more reason to not spunk 20 million on Marko. We fucked it up with the decisions we made.

Not really talking about what we did with the money. Just that it felt artificial the situation of him doing the bite. Like he did it as Real Madrid are massively into their PR side and would be put off leaving us to take what we could get from Barca. Whether or not we’d have used that money well is immaterial (although maybe why there isn’t so much anger over it). But without that bite he probably ends up at Real Madrid for £20-30m more. So not sure I’m quite as forgiving of the manner of his departure as you said you were.

I do not have any kind of problem with celebrating goals. In fact, I have more of a problem with not celebrate goals.

I don’t particularly have a problem with the shithousery in general. I loved all that when he played for us.

I do have a problem, as others have said, with him elevating that shithousery to the point of trying to injure our players. What he did to Robbo in the the first half of the Barca was fucking nasty.

Did you complain about his nastiness when he was ours though…I bet you didn’t.

I could appreciate his skill but deeply resented the situation he put the club and particularly Kenny in having to defend him. I was glad when he went…

Aye, £60m was a decent wedge back then, especially for a player who wanted away. It isn’t Suarez fault we flushed the 2/3 of it down the shitter on Markovic and Ballotelli.

Christ, we were a shambles back then. A big reason why I am absolutely not arsed about Brendan going to Utd.

Nope, but I don’t recall him deliberately injuring people when he was here.

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Oh yeah, they definitely provided him with a foundation since the squad was in a bit of transition — although I can’t say I loved either Lovren or Moreno. I guess what I was getting at was more the fact that they were definitely not top-class players like we hoped we’d be buying. I myself hoped we’d get one or two high-level talents instead of a number of guys with potential. Add Markovic and Lambert to that group of five and you go “hmm, where did all that money go?”

That booing obviously started when both him and Coutinho (where the main argument is probably those “back issues” at the end of summer 2017) were about to kick off the game at Anfield. Of course, we were not booing only them two. I wouldn’t make a great drama of it. He was a great player for us, did some stupid things (it’s just stupidity first and foremost for him, and I’m not too bothered about his attempt to go to Arsenal) and also wasn’t here so long. He may like Liverpool and say so, but I don’t think it will remain as his favourite place when he looks back. Important yes, but in that period, he was better than that, he merited a larger stage. Same for our fans, he may be (and he is, in my opinion) better than some other Liverpool ex-players in his position, but will possibly not get the same love. I mean, to search for 100% accurate “justice” who some set of fans boo is unrealistic. Impossible. You can find crazy variations. And you know what, I respect Luis for the way he reacted to that booing by actually not reacting, at least after Nou Camp (the fact that I can’t remember anymore what happened speaks volumes). It tells me enough, he still respects us and loves us to a certain extent and that’s where it can end for me. On the pitch I don’t mind if there are some back and forth thingies with someone like Suarez. We all want to win. Sometimes we romanticize too much and then if you really analyze it, you’ll get contradictions left, right and centre. So, f*ck it, it’s football.

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In the CL first match vs AtM, Suarez came on at 80min. At 94min, the following sequence happened.
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  1. Suarez looked and knew VvD would jump for the ball.
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  2. Instead of jumping for the header, Suarez backed into the leaping VvD. The type of actions we always criticize Harry Kane about.
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  3. VvD in the air tried to gain his balance, body in awkward position. Thank goodness no injury.
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To be honest we see that all the time, I remember one of our players winning an aerial duel like that against West Ham. Nothing malicious I don’t think. Sometimes it’s just luck. Virgil doesn’t have to use his right arm to lean on Suarez, perhaps more focus on the ball would’ve helped to have more balance.

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Suarez is a fucking animal who only cares about himself.

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Nope
His reaction after the Crystal Palace game was one of loss for his team.
If he was a selfish fuck Gerrard would have left him on his own.

He is anything but selfish. He is the one who doesn’t hesitate to take one for the team.

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You spelt “himself” wrong!

Only in the pursuit of victory for himself.

That harsh. Suarez is the ultimate team player. He never stops running and and he gives his all. He played half the 2013/14 with a knee injury trying to get us over the line.

There are lots you could accuse him of, but not being a team player isn’t one.

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I’m not questioning his desire for the team to win but what his motivation is. Its purely, and I suppose naturally, from a selfish point of view. A player can’t win a trophy or league the team has to. For him to win the team has to. He’s more committed to winning than anyone I think I’ve ever seen. But it’s so he can win.

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The team wins :man_shrugging:

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But he wouldn’t have given a shit about this team if he’d got that move to Arsenal he’d have been absolutely cut throat trying to make sure they win.

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