Manchester City* - 130 charges (and counting...) (Part 2)

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I thought the FA had nothing to do with this? The charges have been brought by the Premier League.

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No fan of Guardiola, and you’re right to call him out for not mentioning atrocities committed by people he works for, but I found it very unfair to see the BBC publish a criticism of Guardiola by a Jewish group which called him an anti-semite for these comments. The BBC article does nothing to place his comments in context or even really mention what he said.

Yet another example of criticism of Israeli policy being intentionally misconstrued as anti-semitism in order to undermine and attack the critic.

Our media really fails us daily.

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They’re discussing the empty seats on WSAG (rancid EFC fansite) and falling over themselves to justify them. They have some weird affinity to City based on the fact they stopped der redshite from winning stuff.
Of course, the same excuses would apply if it had happened at Anfield.

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I was at that game last night. Mrs CDO is a season ticket holder (her usual mate couldn’t go). If they have looked up there were many thousands of seats empty in all the stands. But they’ll still say it was sold out. :nerd_face:

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I’m sure life would be more pleasant if you never looked at that site!

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I know he doesn’t understand rules…

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They didn’t say the stadium was full, did they?
Stating that it was sold out could be true, just that all unsold tickets were ultimately bought by themselves or their crooked backers.
Cheaters through and through.

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(Edit removed - that was Man C Newcastle from 2022 :smiley: - stupid search engine and poor checking on my part)

Capacity is currently 55,097 - Etihad Stadium | Manchester City | Football Ground Guide

Seems like there were more than that empty?

Bit like the Melania film.

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There are some home games in which they had considerably less. Against Brentford in the League Cup they had 38k, against Galatasaray in the CL they had 35k.

Stadiums are also rarely full up to the official capacity, especially in Europe for example. It has another limit. Our capacity is 61,276, but in Europe it rarely surpasses 59k.

Would it be down to cup games not automatically being sold like a season ticket would automatically class as a sale and would still be one even if it was put back up for sale. Like at Palace I was able to sell my Boxing Day ticket

Though this report suggests attendance was only 41,834 - and they didn’t think that tallied with bums on seats - ‘If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it…’ Asking for a Manchester City friend - NUFC The Mag

The main point was PL, then, could easily have referred it to a court under Arb Act.

But: -

Yes, The Football Association (FA) influences the Premier League as its official governing body, holding ultimate sanctioning power over its rules and regulations. While the Premier League operates with significant day-to-day autonomy, the FA maintains a “special share” requiring approval for board appointments, rule amendments, and disciplinary matters.

Just missing the supervision of the recovery of significant damages. Theyre both all over it and arguing about how to trvialise the outcome and where to send the spoils. Its 8 yrs since City first obstructed PL and about to go into the 4th yr of proceedings. Ive never seen that delay before, and been involved in sizeable Arbs, which are usually done inside 2yrs.

Given how the Court for Arbitration in Sport totally fucked up UEFAs challenge to City, why would the PL want to go down that route?

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Yeah the point of keeping it out of the courts and managing it as part of an internal process is 1) City signed up to those rules and approach to deliberation, and 2) they are not subject to external appeal

That doesn’t speak to how odd it is that it has taken this long, but then nothing about any of this is normal and the PL is in uncharted territory trying to deal with this retrospectively

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Well firstly they don’t have any other relief available. CAS has exclusive jurisdiction, unless appeal to high court on a point of law, but thats only after a final award. Or if something really irregular takes place.

Its private law dispute resolution so oriented toward them settling it themselves and not troubling the Arbitrator, ideally anyway.

The only sensible explanation for the length of time is likely the number of charges, the silence, well they both like it that way.

The model is borrowed from international commercial law, fertile and predisposed to a confidential settlement. Or shady deal.

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And that 41,834 included 5,359 Newcastle fans, so 24,803 City fans couldn’t be arsed about a cup semi final. That’s 40% of the capacity. No wonder Guardiola’s thinking of leaving. Maybe he’ll be tempted to manage a real football club with passionate support, like Tranmere Rovers perhaps.

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CAS didn’t do anything. UEFA fucked themselves by not bringing their case within the already written timeframe that UEFA themselves wrote.

Also, from memory I believe that the way the P/L brought these charges prevents both parties from appealing to CAS - it is straight down to the ruling made by the 3 judges

Wasn’t there something about how and how many judges CAS appointed? With 2 out of the 3 being on the City side or something?