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One thing I will say for Max is that he passed Lewis cleanly on that last lap. Yes, he was on fresh optimum tyres so had a huge speed advantage but he could have just run into Hamilton. It’s about the only time this year where I felt Max relied on pure speed to pass Lewis rather than being reckless.

Hilarious! Serves Hamilton right.

Mercedes are officially appealing the result.

Why? What’s Hamilton done?

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He is and has been for a long time one of the least gracious people in sport.

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He’s personally responded pretty damn graciously to this situation

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That’s total nonsense.

Well it isn’t. But you don’t have to agree.

Of course I’m not going to agree with something that isn’t true :rofl:

Well, it is true. But of course I don’t expect you to agree.

You’re pretending like this is simply a matter of opinions.

Since you made the claim, why don’t you try and substantiate it. If you can.

Also congrats to @Dutch!

Well, apparently Verstappen was the best racer on the day, Dutch news sites are unbearable to read for the coming days, even football sites open with Verstappen taking the WC.

Mad, 5 years ago 95% of those people could not care less about F1.

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Mercedes has gone full cry baby mourihno style

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It is simply a matter of opinion, however it’s opinion based on the facts of everything he does and says after his races. Of course I don’t have any inclination to search for any of that because I don’t care if you agree or not but that doesn’t mean I did not observe it at the time.

I’m confident RBR would have done the same if the shoe was on the other foot. The FIA didn’t follow their own rules.

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Blatant rule breach but one hell of a final lap.

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Tbh i don’t care. I don’t like either of them.

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The allegation that Verstappen overtook under the safety car is the easier one to punish as that’s the actions of the driver. However, watching live it looked extremely marginal and like Hamilton may have deliberately slowed to try and put Verstappen in breach. Of course, Hamilton as the lead car dictates the pace but if it was a sudden deceleration then I’m not sure that’s allowed.

The other rule breach was by the fucking stewards/race control so that’s a nightmare for the FIA. Do you then take the result as where people were when Latifi crashed? That would probably be the fairest outcome.

Lewis Hamilton was cheated out of that. He was the best driver all day. Took the lead from the off, piled on multiple fastest laps, built a big lead. Safety car on, bunches back together, we go again. Hamilton, again the better driver, builds up a big lead. Again. It’s all over, the better driver had won.

However…

Another crash by the Williams idiot. Bunches up again. Then massive confusion.

Verstappen luckily gets fresh soft tires. And then, bizarrely, illegally, we get multiple versions of how to resolve the restart, with not all cars being allowed to unlap themselves.

In terms of spectacle, they got one more - unfair - lap of racing.
In terms of integrity of the sport, their own rules were discarded and Hamilton was cheated out of it.

I don’t know what legal recourse there is, but this is unacceptable, and I’m a bit pissed off I watched it now, as I enjoy sport, but that was not it, and Hamilton has been cheated.

Verstappen is a great driver, but today, a long way second best to Hamilton. Such a shame.

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