No the answer is to force UEFA, FIFA and TV company controlled leagues to sit down and start discussing how to make things better for the clubs and their fans and less lucrative for those organisations. Announcing plans to break away and form a super league might do such a thing.
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It might⌠but you know itâs not going to.
we are a fucking disgrace having our name associated with this.
I sometimes think when things like this happen, when they tried to massively hike the ticket prices up - what would Shanks be thinking of this.
Fucking terrible for the working class game this.
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Can you give me an example of what you think UEFA and FIFA can do to make things better for the fans⌠tv companies - granted can sort kick off times etc but that would be down to the PL to grow some bollocks and sort.
Nobody seemed to care when UEFA did it to the European Cup with the creation of the Champions League to make uefa more money.
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Have you never seen how few tickets for CL and EL finals go to fans of the clubs involved? So many go to Fifa and uefa to make vast money on corporate deals and hospitality.
Itâs their competition and the champions league is the best competition in world football. Why the fuck would they have left it as the European Cup format?
Plus if you have a product why not rebrand and make extra money on it?
Itâs the same for the FA Cup and League Cup final.
It does fuck me off but are you suggesting you think any European Super League will be fan only and No Hospitality / corporate tickets?
Plus how much do you think these tickets will cost?!?
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So it would be perfectly fine if it was UEFA doing this? Itâs only about the fact itâs the clubs benefitting and not UEFA?
A league with no relegation or promotion is pointless.
Struggling to see how city get inâŚthey arenât a super club as of today theyâve never won anything Europe and without dirty money theyâd still be mid table. Same as Chelsea but they at least have 1 euro cup.
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UEFA are the governing body - they can run their competitions as they want - seperate from each national competition.
A break away European Super League (UEFA driven or not) is complete bollocks and unacceptable
They get in coz of money⌠theyâve won what 5 league titles in the last 10 years (or whatever it is).
Spurs? European super league? Fucking hell they arenât even the biggest club in north London
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Theyâd be with the clubs to sell THEIR hospitality THEIR corporate THEIR fans. And thatâs guesswork and assumption. You realise UEFA are making changes to the CL tomorrow that equal yet more money for UEFA, more agro for fans and hassle for clubs?
What do you actually think is being proposed? To me itâs exactly the same as when the European Cup turned into the Champions League just not done by UEFA who are left holding their dick in their hands with a vastly diminished âChampionsâ league. But you say itâd be unacceptable even if it was UEFA doing it now like it was them then which you approved of.
Yes I realise that. Like I said itâs their competition - they can do what they like with it.
Aggro for the fans? How so?
Of course the changes they make is going to generate more income for them. Do you think they should make changes that leads to them losing money?
The breakaway part of it is the part I donât like and find totally unacceptable.
And itâs a good job that the âchampionsâ league is not just champions. A lot of big moments for this club in the last 20-30 years in Europe would have been lost otherwise.
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The not for profit international governing body of the game have cash reserves of $1.5 billion. They make huge demands of host countries for the world cup and couldnât give a shit if all the infrastructure built for their tournament goes to shit or they award it a host with horrific human rights records. Thatâs who runs the world game and people are pointing fingers at clubs for their greed.
Countless officials from FIFA and UEFA have been caught up in scandal after scandal and the top of the game has been slowly ring fencing more and more money and power for themselves. TV money has changed the game forever and weâve been happy to be part of that as well as demanding ever increasing sums be spent every window without a seconds thought on whether that was good for the game. Weâve seen the top four as minimum requirement so we can get into the big paying competition even though weâve only really earned a place as Champions once.
We didnât complain about any of this but each element was just another step towards this day. We can be outraged but weâve been happy to go along with every step up to now providing it offered us even one iota more of a chance to win games and trophies.
Or as someone more succinctly put it on Twitter, âif youâre all of a sudden worried about the greed in the game then Iâd say youâre about 30 years too lateâ
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Well increasing the group stage to ten games, some will be against minnows with no real chance of progression and may be in the back of beyond, more games leading to more rearranged fixtures, more matches on more different viewing platforms meaning more subscriptions, just a few off the top of my head.
My understanding is the breakaway bit is from UEFA, otherwise I donât understand the threats to kick these clubs out of their domestic leagues. Yes leaving the top league of English Football would be a deal breaker for me. Or it would if I believed this was any more than negotiation.
Itâs like being in a prison, watching two inmates argue who is going to fuck you first.
There is no love or consideration what is good for us. Itâs all about money and imposing their will.
Fans have been exploited far too long, and this is simply a continuation. Whatâs the best way of extracting money from fans.
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