I’m going to weigh in on graphics cards as I’m on the top end of that pile of crap and did tons of research as the cost is criminal, hope you guys don’t mind but thought I’d share my experience hoping someone might benefit!
The 4090 launch is $2000+, 4080 is slower and cheaper and there’s cards available but the 90’s are getting scalped like crazy, bottom line NVIDIA is ripping everyone off especially with the 4080. That’s the top end of the market and everything else is cascading down as people upgrade, so deals are around but buyer beware.
I’ve had a 1080ti for 4 years and thought I was crazy paying $650 for it back then. But its lasted like a champion and to be honest isn’t too far off my new 3080 12 gig card. I strongly recommend you trying to upgrade and spend as much as you can on the GPU, after making sure the PCI express (motherboard slot the GPU plugs into) can support the new card, and your power supply (PSU) can support and you can fit the damn thing into your case, my card is 12" long, and its heavy and needed a special supporting block to stop it sagging. Watts have spiked with newer GPU cards and you’ll find with newer cards they require 1 or 2 eight pin power cables + cheap PSU’s have been blowing up and frying PCs so take care on cheap PSUs. Here’s the latest best PSU list
Now a really important point is think about your monitor. Are you using a 1080, 2k, 4k? As you scale up to 4k you add a massive amount of work burden to the GPU. Using VR is even more.
Then you have FPS (frames per second) how many frames can your monitor support? HDR available? Does the game use ray tracing (and does it really make a difference)? If you like playing first person games, a lot of that applies. Those footy manager players not so much. Its amazing how much the game experience changes at ultra using a curved screen I love WH3 IE on ultra using a curved screen.
I paid $800 for my 3080 12gig GPU, upgraded to a gold 1000 watt PSU that was the best TUF model I could get and blew a cool $1000. My wife got me a curved 32" monitor for our 25th wedding anniversary, so I truly have a nice rig. The point I’m making is I’ve learned if I buy the best I possibly can it lasts for a long time.
I actually downgraded from a 32" 4k monitor to a 32" 2k curved screen for the immersion and its been great. I did use VR for some time and motion sickness will kick in if your GPU isn’t strong enough to support. Someone saying they were suffering from motion sickness, your rig might well be causing stuttering or tearing that’s invisible to the naked eye but the cause and its a real thing in the industry when you use a VR headset. No good if you are doing a medical implant which I support, so top end rigs definitely minimize this. Back to me downgrading. I found I was having to increase the font size in footy manager, WH3 and just in Windows. Instead of increasing the user interface I changed my monitor and now I’m back to 100% text size. My GPU is working twice as hard as a 1080 monitor and not 3 times as hard, its a huge card so handles it easily. It does get hot though.
I would recommend avoiding AMD. Their cards are powerful but their drivers are terrible. You may get lucky and they work, but I tried and had my PC crash for 3 days straight. I used Amazon, so returned and went back to NVIDIA and got a 3080 and it worked plug and play.
Beware of second hand cards. 1070ti is from the same generation as my 1080ti so price gouging wasn’t so bad. 1060 and 1070 were seen to be good cards back then, 1080 and especially the ti’s were the top of the range. 1070ti was the midrange smart mans card, best bang for the buck, 1080ti was for the idiot willing to pay the premium (I didn’t know that back then, but got 4 years out of it).
This was prior to COVID and Crypto and crypto miners buying all the cards. With crypto crashing, we’ve had a slew of 2nd hand cards entering the market and people have been trading up on deals they’ve been getting on ebay and selling their old cards. I wouldn’t touch a second hand card unless it was guaranteed. I’ve seen a lot of crazy shit like miners using a hose pipe to clean off dust. Lots of stories of bad cards, bricks in boxes, just silly shit going on in the gaming hardware world right now, but GPUs are the workhorse to any PC and not the CPU. You will choke the PC if you get a very good GPU and have a shit CPU so consider your rig. Also power requirements are getting insane, I had to change my PSU to a much higher level and a gold version because there’s also a lot of horror stories of PSU’s blowing up and frying a rig.
Redfan, you are using a laptop and the disadvantage of a laptop is they aren’t very easy to update. That said there’s been some really good deals with high end discrete GPUs being sold in laptop rigs for excellent prices. Discreet is important especially in laptops. Manufactures will sell you an integrated CPU/GPU and they’re really weak for gaming because the CPU is doing the graphics work along with the processing.
The 3080 series will be around for a long time as it supports ray tracing and the gold standard of 60+ frames per second (FPS). This site has been very useful for me to determine if moving away from my 1080ti was worth it.
I then handed down my gpu to my eldest son who has autism but loves to game and for him playing at a1080 resolution or at 4k he can load these games. He was on a 970 which was the prior generation to the 10’s, he’s thrilled to move onto the 1080ti and it lets him play Elden Ring now.
Another very cheap option was my other son’s PC purchase for his birthday. He also has autism sadly and I just bought a sweet 2nd hand i7 desktop computer with 32 gig, 2 tb ssd for $200 which is insanely cheap. That was easily a $1000 pc two years ago - he just watches movies, so is very fast for his needs and could be worth a punt and just replace the whole rig. Sorry to say most of my guidance is US based I know a lot of the forum is based in the UK and other countries. But hope some of that is at least helpful.